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SpinnerBait_Nut

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"Question"<br /><br />You are sitting behind the wheel in a car keeping<br />a constant speed, on you left side there is an abyss.<br /><br />On your right side you have a fire engine and it<br />keeps the same speed as you.<br /><br />In front of you runs a pig, larger than you car.<br /><br />A helicopter is following you, at ground level.<br /><br />Both the helicopter and the pig are keeping<br />the same speed as you.<br /><br />What will you need to do to be able to stop?
 

gaugeguy

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Slam on the brakes. The choppers skids hit your car, causing the blades to hack up the pig. The fire truck can put out the flames. :confused: <br /><br />Is the brown acid ok to take yet?
 

neumanns

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SBN, me thinks the abyss is no longer on your left... :eek: :D :D Why do you need stopped if you are already parked?
 

mellowyellow

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call the fire dept. and tell them there is a fire<br />and the firtruck will speed up and free the right lane?????<br />run the pig over?
 

JasonJ

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Why would you need to stop? The pig and helicopter are keeping speed, so you can just keep going.
 

LadyFish

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I adjust the mirror to see if my hair looks nice,<br />fix my lipstick, turn up the "born to be wild" CD,<br />wink at the guys in the fire engine, and drive into<br />the abyss. :)
 

Carphunter

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First, I would give the helicopter pilot the "bird" for flying so low,...... Second, I would probably have to argue with the wife because I gave the pilot the "bird",..........Third, the wife really likes Fireman, so I would instruct her to do a "Janet Jackson", so that we could distract those Fireman,..........Fourth, I would probably have to explain to the kids why Janet and Mommy like to expose themselves to strangers,.........Fifth, while the Fireman were distracted, I would take a picture of the pig, 'cause, man, I got a big car, so thats one big pig,...........Sixth, the flash from the camera would temporarily blind the pig, which would run out in front of the fire truck, because the Fireman are distracted, they would not see the pig, and they would squash poor little porky,.......... that would free up the area in front of my car, and the right side because the Fireman would stop and see what the heck they just ran over. I would then pull off to the right side of the road, let the Helicopter fly by, again, giving the pilot the "bird".......... Then, by chance, I would find out that the driver of the fire truck was my long lost twin brother, we would hug, then we would have a big ham sandwich. <br />The "Abyss" could be avoided, even though I thought it was a good movie.<br /><br />Either that, or I would say, "The pig crossed the road, to get to the other side". :D
 

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Answer:<br /><br />Get out of the car, step down from the merry-go-round<br />and leave you seat to someone younger.<br /><br />The children's merry-go-round in the amusement<br />park is primarily for the younger children.<br /> :D :D :p :p :) :cool:
 

LadyFish

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OMG
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snapperbait

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I just hit my head real hard on the puter desk messing with the gall darn printer cable, then I read this... <br /><br />Kinda thought there for a minute that I knocked something loose in my noggin.. :eek:
 

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SBN...<br /><br />Are you late for your treatment?<br /><br /> :D <br /><br />H.
 

Xcusme

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Naaw, he's not late, he just needs to up the voltage a bit.....<br /><br />Here's the real answer:<br /><br />--------------------------------<br />Newton's 2nd Law & Coriolis force <br />Newton's 2nd Law of Mechanics <br />F = M * A <br />M = mass of an object , kg <br />A = absolute acceleration<br />F = total actual force acting on the object;<br />unit : kg * m / (s**2)<br />F and A are both vectors <br /><br />reference frame , <br />* Absolute acceleration of an object is measured <br />in a reference frame at rest :<br />Such coordinate is called ( Inertial Coordinate) <br />* Such V is absolute velocity & A is absolute acceleration. <br />* wind is NOT absolute velocity <br />It is not measured in an inertial coordinate <br />* wind is a measure of the velocity of air parcels relative to a weather station ;<br />i.e. relative to a location on a rotating earth ,<br />Hence wind is a velocity in a Rotating Coordinate <br />It is a relative velocity . <br />* A change of wind is a relative acceleration <br />* if A refers to the relative (instead of absolute) acceleration in the formula above,<br />F would refer to more than just the actual force <br />We need to consider the effects associated with the rotation of the earth.<br />Those effects are called "forces" & <br />we include them in "F"<br /><br />Forces that affect wind : <br />(1) Coriolis force <br />(2) Centrifugal force <br />(3) Pressure gradient force <br />(4) Gravitational force <br />(5) Frictional force <br /><br />How to analyse/understand the nature of wind measured on earth? <br />To begin with, we need to introduce a force called <br />Coriolis Force <br /><br />F(Coriolis)<br />= 2 * V * W * sin f <br /><br />where V = wind speed <br />W = rotation rate of the earth,<br />one revolution per day <br />f = latitude <br />The dependence of latitude appears because only the local vertical component of the earth's rotation affects the horizontal wind. <br /><br />Direction of F(Coriolis) is 90 degree to the right of the wind vector in Northern Hemisphere. <br />e.g. F(Coriolis) is southward if the wind is westerly ; <br />Opposite in southern hemisphere .<br />F(Coriolis) only tends to change the direction of the wind & does not change the wind speed. <br /><br />What is the physical nature of F(Coriolis) ? <br />We can get a deeper understanding of F(Coriolis) by <br />relating it to the basic notion of "conservation of angular momentum" . <br /><br />Illustrated with a simple example : <br />Coriolis demo<br />* two players, A and B, standing at opposite sides of a merry-go-round that rotates in counterclockwise direction, <br />* A throws a ball straight towards B <br />* B cannot catch the ball since it goes to the right of B . <br />* B would conclude that the ball has been deflected <br />to the right presumably by a certain force. <br /><br />* Note : A & B are on a rotating coordinate <br />The rotational movement of an object with respect to an axis has a property called "Angular Momentum" <br /><br />absolute angular momentum<br />= (absolute tangential velocity) <br />* (distance from the axis of rotation) <br /><br />"tangential velocity" is the component of the velocity<br />in the direction of the curve of rotation. <br /><br />absolute tangential velocity of the ball<br />= relative tangential velocity of ball <br />+ tangential velocity due to merry-go-round <br /><br />Newton's law of motion implies that,<br />if there is no force acting on the ball,<br />its absolute angular momentum would not change. <br /><br />* Recall, A throws a ball radially towards B <br />* When the ball leaves A's hand,<br />the ball has zero relative tangential velocity; <br />it only has the velocity of the merry-go-round <br />* initial absolute tangential velocity<br />= the velocity of merry-go-round at A's position<br /><br />* The original amount of absolute angular momentum in the ball does not change <br />after it leaves A's hand because no real force acts on it thereafter. <br />i.e. Conservation of absolute angular momentum <br />* As soon as the ball leaves A's hand,<br />its distance to the axis of the merry-go-round decreases.<br />* This means that its new angular momentum associated with <br />the rotation of the coordinate becomes smaller. <br />* For the absolute angular momentum to remain the same,<br />the ball's relative angular momentum must increase <br />to make up for the difference <br />* Consequentially, a nonzero relative tangential velocity of the ball would appear; <br />i.e. The ball begins to move tangentially from its initial radial path ; <br />hence deflecting to the right . <br />* To A & B there appears to be a force <br />(first recognised by a French engineer, Coriolis)<br />causing the deflection.<br /><br />* a person standing on the ground is not on such a rotating coordinate; <br />he sees a ball going straight. <br />To him, there is no Coriolis force acting on the ball. <br />* Coriolis force also referred to as an apparent force; <br />Only apparent to observers on a rotating coordinate . <br /><br />* rotation of the earth is very slow compared with that of the merry-go-round <br />Hence its effect on the ball is negligibly small,<br />compared to the effect of the rapidly rotating merry-go-round <br />as far as A & B are concerned<br /><br />How might one describe what happens<br />to an air parcel moving in a curved trajectory ? <br />e.g. wind near a trough <br />Two equivalent points of view : <br /><br />(1) One could say that<br />the parcel has a centripetal acceleration. <br />A(centripetal) = V**2 / R <br />where V= speed of parcel <br />Its direction is 90 degrees to the "inside of the trajectory", called inward normal <br />R = radius of curvature <br /><br />(2) Alternatively, one could say that <br />there is a centrifugal force acting on the parcel. <br />The direction of this force is outward normal to the trajectory. <br />with a magnitude <br />F(centrifugal) = V **2 / R <br />Interpretation (2) is often used ,for convenience, e.g. when we discuss the balance of forces acting on air parcels later on. <br /><br />question for thought : <br />Why doesn't the moon crash down on earth under the influence of the gravitational force of the earth ?
 
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