Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

kidafa

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Hi All,

Just recently purchased a 2006 Bayliner 176 Bowrider w/ a 3L mercuiser. Its my first boat....

The prop on is is a quicksilver laser II and one of the the three ventilation holes is blocked with silicon and there is evidence that the other two have been blocked some time as well. Why would someone do that and should I unblock it or leave it?


Cheers,

Chris
 

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kidafa

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

Any one?
 

Texasmark

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

I had a LaserI years ago and it had a medium sized round hole per blade and no offering of closure. Later came the Laser II with huge square holes (geometry probably has nothing to do with performance one would think) and reading up on them they are deliberately built that way and plastic? plugs are offered to "downsize" the hole to suit the application.

The purpose of the holes is to improve what's called "hole shot". Hole shot basically is getting your boat outta-da-hole and up on top of the water (on "plane). Since horsepower is part rpm's and part torque and other things, if you can get your rpm's up fast, you can develop your HP fast and in doing so, you can spin your prop faster and go faster as a result.

In mastering the hole shot, the holes allow exhaust gas and (cooling water...there, not part of the solution) in the exhaust to flow out the side of the prop barrel and over the next blade coming around. This provides a compressible medium which doesn't offer as much resistance to the engine HP as solid water and as a result the engine doesn't "lug" and rpms get up faster resulting in a quicker hole shot and less bow in your face time and less engine wear.

If the holes are too big for the application, there will be too much uncompressible medium and the prop will cavitate and the boat will have reduced performance. Also, in rough water, holes can allow for cavitation/ventilation and is undesirable.

Sooooo the brilliant engineeers at Merc decided to make a prop for all applications and provided multiple sized plugs (with varying sized holes in them) to plug the prop to suit you.

That is what you have. If yours are plugged completely, one would only assume the previous owner, by trial and error, plugged till he got the results he wanted. Have read on here that high rake props with ports and all are meant for bass boats and may not be what you want in an I/O application. That would support your I/O having solid plugs.....butttt your desires may be different than those of the previous owner.

One thing needs to happen however, you need to have all 3 holes plugged with the same size plug to reduce the opportunity for uneven loading on the blades which could set up vibrations in the power train......phew.

HTH,

Mark
 

kidafa

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

Awesome response exactly what I was after. Only one of them is blocked so I think I may unblock it and see how it goes :)
 

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

Reviving this thread with some info on the ventilation plugs. 2 stroke engines benefit from the holes for the reasons listed above- they allow air flow over the blades to actually create some cavitation and allow the engine to spin up faster. 2 strokes do not have the torque available as you would get from the 3.0L I/O. Your boat doesn't need the holes for the hole shot and having them open can actually cause issues.
 

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

I have a little different take on this as doing alot of research on the merc prop sites and what the holes actually are for. They are called the pvs (performance vent system) at it works quite nicely....i have a mercury Mirage plus prop with the pvs, and it works like described above, where the exhaust instead of flowing directly through your prop "bubbles out of the holes creating an air pocket so you can get your prop to spin faster, creating higher rpms, thus popping your boat out of the hole much faster.....now when you take all of the plugs out you need to be carful as not to over rev your motor, this is why different size hole plugs are avaliable....Personaly when i put this prop on, i had the plugs in, then took them all out and it jumped my rpms 500+ at take off. It's like reving the motor and poping the clutch in a car. So just saying, try playing with the prop and the plugs, you may find your self coming out of the hole really quick....good luck.
 

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

I have a little different take on this as doing alot of research on the merc prop sites and what the holes actually are for. They are called the pvs (performance vent system) at it works quite nicely....i have a mercury Mirage plus prop with the pvs, and it works like described above, where the exhaust instead of flowing directly through your prop "bubbles out of the holes creating an air pocket so you can get your prop to spin faster, creating higher rpms, thus popping your boat out of the hole much faster.....now when you take all of the plugs out you need to be carful as not to over rev your motor, this is why different size hole plugs are avaliable....Personaly when i put this prop on, i had the plugs in, then took them all out and it jumped my rpms 500+ at take off. It's like reving the motor and poping the clutch in a car. So just saying, try playing with the prop and the plugs, you may find your self coming out of the hole really quick....good luck.

OUTSTANDING PIECE OF INFORMATION, SIR.

In looking at your I/O with the high dead rise at the transom and all, I am glad that you have provided (at least for me) an experienced viewpoint on using the vented prop with an I/O. There have been responses herein whereby some said that they were for OB's and didn't work on I/O's.....well if they work on that boat of yours, they ought to work on any I/O.

Do you get the overdrive "downshift" with yours? I ran a Laser I on a Ranger BB and once I got up to speed, the holes would close (water rushing by) and the engine would pick up the load of solid water and "downshift" to regular rpm's. Was really fun to get her up and wait for it.

Mark
 

msojjo

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

no i dont get any kind of down shifting or any other kind of cavitation at any other speed except take off, but your prop IS designed a bit differently than mine. It does exactly what the techs at merc performance said it would do. I have a 21 pitch prop on my boat which keeps my rpms on the lower side of recomended engine rpm. with the weight of my boat it was hard to climb out of the hole especially scince im always at max capacity. i was climbing out of the hole slowly at just under 3000 rpms, and i removed all plugs and now blow out of the hole at about 3500 rpm....
 

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

Do you get the overdrive "downshift" with yours? I ran a Laser I on a Ranger BB and once I got up to speed, the holes would close (water rushing by) and the engine would pick up the load of solid water and "downshift" to regular rpm's. Was really fun to get her up and wait for it
Agreed. My V153 would actually pull a wheelie, again, when the prop hooked up. 13 1/2 x 22 ventilated Lightspeed btw.

See no reason why an IO with thru hub exhaust wouldn't benefit from a ventilated prop. Too much blow by? Plug the holes a lil bit.
 

Texasmark

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Re: Quicksilver Laser II With Blocked Ventilation Holes?

agreed. My v153 would actually pull a wheelie, again, when the prop hooked up. 13 1/2 x 22 ventilated lightspeed btw.

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