Replacing rust exhaust bolts

SweeperForce

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Hello,
As most of you know I'm in the mitts of replacing the gasket in my exhaust port and plate. Below is a picture of the condition of the bolts. Can I go to Lowes/Home depot and get new bolt if they carry anything like this. I was able to pick them up with a magnet so I ruled out aluminum and stainless wouldn't corrode like that, would it?
Exhaust bolts_0001A.jpg

Thanks,
Tom
 

labawg

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Re: Replacing rust exhaust bolts

On the head of the bolts are there any marks? No marks are low carbon steel. Best for general hardware use where high strength is not required. Three marks are made from medium carbon steel, tempered and zinc plated. Best for automotive use and other areas where higher strength is desired. Six marks are made from medium carbon alloy steel, tempered, and zinc plated. Best suited for applications where high strength and hardness is required. Sometime higher grade bolts will come without the zinc plating. Also sometime you will find stainless steel 18-8 bolts but not normally in the higher strengths. Most older hardware stores will carry what you need.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Replacing rust exhaust bolts

If those are the bolts holding the exhaust cover, gasket and stainless plate assembly to the block and if your engine is still the 85 HP, then they are not stock--they are way too long and the two on the left are too thick too. They look like head bolts. Perhaps the P.O. drilled, tapped, and replaced them? Does the block show any signs of snapped bolts that were drilled out?

As far as replacing them, you can replace all with stainless bolts BUT you must used anti-seize or silicone RTV. If you don't, aluminum in the block and stainless in contact will set up a galvanic reaction and the bolts will quickly corrode into place. Even with minute amounts of moisture and fresh water use. I routinely replace all fasteners EXCEPT head bolts with stainless. You can buy stainless bolts in Lowes or Home Depot but a better choice would be to find a Fastenal. In any case, it will be expensive.

If we are indeed looking at head bolts, these really need to be replaced with grade 8 bolts. It came from the manufacturer that way for a reason and I have never seen a reason to try and replace them with stainless. Grade 8 have six "hash" marks on the head--six lines, usually one at eac point. Some will have a circle and lines.

Those bolts do not show enough damage to be unusable. You could reuse them as is or give them a light sanding first. To prevent further rust, you can coat the entire bolt with anti-seize--silver colored nickel base. Other mixtures, especially copper will corrode.

Even though torque specifications are for dry bolts, the head bolts at 225 inch pounds will not be too tight and will not strip with anti-seize lubricating them.
Same thing for 70 inch pounds on 1/4 X 20 exhaust cover bolts.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Replacing rust exhaust bolts

Yeah! That's what I was thinking but in past posts he mentioned an 85. I didn't see a 150 mentioned so I used that. 150 definitely has longer exhaust cover bolts.
 

SweeperForce

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Re: Replacing rust exhaust bolts

Well, I got both the plate and the exhaust port off. No problem at all. The gasket between the port and plate was shot. The gasket between the port and the block was in good shape and peeled right off. Even though the marina wants $45 for it and $29 for the plate gasket I ordered them anyway. There is a lot of black sludge inside the exhaust holes on the block, I assume I should clean that out? Here is a picture.

Sorry for any confusion, I do have an 1989 150 hp. If I said I have an 85 hp, I apologize.

Exhaust pics_0004A.jpg

Thanks,
Tom
 
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