resistor wiring in car amp conversion - 55HP 1968 Johnson

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resistor wiring in car amp conversion - 55HP 1968 Johnson

Hi all,

I have come across the following instructions ( see below) for converting to a car amp system. My question is how to wire the resistor. Sounds like I should have a resistor , condenser and wire to the points all off the negative terminal. Does this resistor the resitor is wired neg terminal one side and grounded to the block on the other?

I am confused because I inline seen resistors wired inline with the positive terminal so to cut down on current at low rpm and not burn out the coil.

I would appreciate if someone could clarify for me where the resistor goes. I have in the past run the coil without any resistor but think I may have burned it out because It no longer runs and am now replacing it.


INSTRUCTIONS:
Converting an Outboard Ignition,
From a CD cd to a Coil Type Ignition

To change from a cd (capacitance discharge) amplifier to cd coil on this motor is a simple 12.

1. Remove pre 70s and coil.
2. Use a 12 volt low resistor coil that is pre 70s one that is used with points.
3. The hot wire going to the amplifier connects to the positive side of the coil.
4. Next the wire coming from the points connects to the negative side of the coil along with a condenser.
5. A resistor should be mounted to the block and a wire run from the negative side of coil to the resistor. Should you not know what a resistor is you can most likely find one at your local junk yard it is the ceramic looking block most likely mounted to the fire wall on most cars with points.
6. Finally you will need to make you a coil wire to run from your distributor to the coil. I used the coil wire off the coil I took off the motor and cut it close to the coil because one end needs to have the screw that screws into the distributor and the other end you will need to make up to fit the coil.

Once this is done you are ready to check your spark and head to the water.
 

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Re: resistor wiring in car amp conversion - 55HP 1968 Johnson

Re: resistor wiring in car amp conversion - 55HP 1968 Johnson

The resistor they are describing in the instructions is called a ballast resistor. GM used them in the 50's to prolong life of the points. I think that is a mistake about connecting it to the neg side of the coil. I had an old OMC I/O with one. It was wired so that when the key was in the start position, the resistor was bypassed so the points would get full voltage. When in the run position, current would go thru the resistor. The symptoms of a bad one would be that the motor would start but as soon as the key was released to "run" position, the motor would die. Hope I explained that alright.
 

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The resistor would go to the positive side of the coil and the negitive side would go to the points. Just as Bill said its there to stop the points from burniing. Some coils have it internal, just a thought.
 

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My apologies for the typo errors in the original post. I will proceed with the the resistor inline on the positive side. Thanks for the help.
 

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You should connect another wire from the START terminal on the starter solenoid to the coil. This provides the coil with full 12V when the engine is initially being cranked. When the engine starts and you release the key, that circuit opens and the coil receives reduced voltage through the ballast resistor. Without this connection you might experience hard starting.
 

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as asked of others that have done this conversion
HOW DID IT TURN OUT?
 
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With all the vibration you will probably need an Epoxy filled coil rather than an oil filled one.
 

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as asked of others that have done this conversion
HOW DID IT TURN OUT?
Works fine.
I converted and 60hp rude to this ignition.

epoxy filled coil as mentioned before due to vibration.

you will have to adjust the timing after this conversion is completed.

also the resistance value of the resistor will determine the amount of voltage out of the coil to the distributor, if you have the meter or test equipment to measure the voltage you can try different ballast resistors to get the correct voltage to the coil.

also keep in mind than when the key is in the run position that resistor is dropping voltage and can get warm to the touch so route your wires accordingly.
 
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I am in the process of this conversion and in a hunt for a coil I found a Pertronix Flame Thrower coil #40611 that is epoxy filled and for a 4 or 6cyl motor. I asked Pertronix what ballast resister to use with this coil and they told me this coil has the resister built in and did not require a ballast resister.

You can find this for about $35 which is about $15 lower than the MSD coil.
 

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Re: resistor wiring in car amp conversion - 55HP 1968 Johnson

You have successfully converted a very HOT ignition system to an older-style not-quite-as-hot system that burns up points far faster than the amplifier system.

Now if you were to add an after-market dwell stretcher (Amplifier) to your current system you could get a much hotter spark (more high RPM power) AND stretch points life considerably!

Oh, and you need to put a diode in that wire between the starter relay and the + side of the coil so that you are not feeding back trying to energize the relay or starter while running. The GM starter solenoid has a separate lug for this wire back in 'those days'.
 
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