Responsibility

--GQ--

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Ok so I do admit quite a few "Oldies" :D on this forum but that doesn't mean you are right all the time. I remember reading a couple of posts awhile back, I think was a bit harsh on the youngsters. You said, "they are lazy and dumb". You do realize "love" is also a 4 letter word. Anyhow upon reading the posts, I was so shock to see those words used in such manner. I was depressed for days. Couldn't think clear with the feeling of worthlessness hanging over me like a dark cloud on a sunny day. I mean how could you. Was it not them you took to the Ice Cream Shop when they cried their buns off? Was it not them who asked you nagging questions? Was it not them who made you laugh? Was it not them a reason to go on living? Your son/daughter went out, was it not them dropped off at your house even though you had plan and you didn't care cause the sight of seeing your grandkids made you smile reminding you of you when you were much younger giving your grandparents a hard time because you could realizing that they could do you no wrong because you were YOU? I rest my case. They are our future for heaven sake. Although I didn't fit the subject of such characterization, I was some what offended. Whether you realize it or not, today kids have more responsibilities. More so than you do when you were a kid. <br /><br />For instance, in your younger days, you walked to school. You wake up and a lunch bag was ready to go. You ate what was in the lunch bag and you got along with every kid on the playground. Little Sue was your friend who happened to be a girl and little Johnny was your (bestest) friend. He walked with you on your way to school and back. he played with you in school and again at home. You didn't have to worry about wearing the wrong color clothes cause everyone wore white. On occasion a cutie asked you out and you said yes but you never went out beyond the school playground. As you can see, you had NO RESPONSIBILITY". <br /><br />Well I hate to tell you this but time has changed. Kids no longer do the things you did. They no longer walk to school. They no longer eat lunch packed by moms. Schools become a fashion show. When little Sue ask if you want to go out, to see a movie is not what's on her mind. You have to bypass 1st, second and third base and head straight for the home plate. All these changes just to mention a few, come with greater responsibility. <br /><br />1) driving to school: kids nowadays have to pay for car maintenance fees, buy insurance, registration and other government fees so congress can give themselves a pay raise in addition to budgeting between buying gas to go pick up little Sue or eat.<br /><br />2) Kids no longer eat lunch packed by moms. Not a kool thing to open a brown lunch bag at school. That is so 60, 70, 80's. This is 06. So kids drive out to pay for their lunch cause free/cheap lunch offers by school is just cheap.<br /><br />3) Going out takes on a new twist. After you drop little Sue off, you have to follow up by taking her to a clinic at least once a month. If you're unlucky expect to pay for it the next 18 years.<br /><br /><br />Folks in all honesty, kids today do have more responsibilities. So the next time you see your grandkids, consider the things they will go through in the near future. Please use positive words such as: LOVE, SPECIAL, SMART, PRECIOUS just to name a few. Can someone please add a few more? Thanks!<br /><br />One last thing. Had my parents say those words to me often, I would have been someone better than I am now. Perhaps a Politician. Good Luck to you.
 

dakk1

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Most youngsters given love, attention, discipline, and positive reinforcement will be reasonably good people now and turn into productive adults later. Yes, there is a lot more "pressure" on kids today but if they're getting what they need at home they can handle it. Parents who don't have the time or inclination or whatever to provide those things are the problem. IMHO.<br /><br />Dave
 

Pony

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Originally posted by 12Feetz:<br /> Depression<br />December 7th,1941
No offense but that doesnt make it ok to deem all the current youngsters "lazy and dumb". I'd be willing to bet your elders didn't think highly of your generation. I happen to think thats just the way it goes........My grandma despises my dads music, he in turn hates much of the new music of today. Its just the way it works. No doubt some kids of today are in fact as you describe...............but I tend to think that has a lot to do with parenting. Which when you think about it in a way reflects your generations parenting too. JMHO<br /><br />I'm sure 40 years from now some old guy will call all the kids lazy and dumb and then there will be a response like "September 11" or something along those lines.<br /><br />I tend to agree with ya GQ, plain and simple on occasion the elders on this board are ornery and pessimistic. While I value their expiriences and understand they lived through a lot...........it doesnt make everyone elses opinions garbage. And I think that seems to happen on occasion JMHO.
 

ob

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All of us older guys don't feel that all younger people are stupid by any stretch of the imagination.A bit whiny , uninformed ,and attention starved,but definately not stupid. :D
 

RubberFrog

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Originally posted by P.O.N.Y.:<br />
Originally posted by 12Feetz:<br /> Depression<br />December 7th,1941
I'm sure 40 years from now some old guy will call all the kids lazy and dumb and then there will be a response like "September 11" or something along those lines.
Was there a depression before 9-11? Please don't tell me you are comparing the Iraq war to WWII (No offense to those who are serving). <br /><br />I don't care how hard school is for you poor babies. Talk to your grandparents and great grand parents about the depression.<br /><br />School is a fashion show... who do you think is paying for the clothes you wear to the fashion show? Just so you know, clothes were an issue in the 80's also. Do you have any idea how expensive that Miami Vice look was? ;) <br /><br />Car expenses... whose paying your rent and buying your food so you can spend your money on a car? As near as I recall, we had to pay for gas and insurance back then as well. :eek: <br /><br />Poor babies... they have to wear nice clothes and drive cars to go buy lunch and worry about knocking up there girlfriends :( <br /><br />Do you realize how rediculous that sounds? :confused:
 

RubberFrog

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Besides, how expensive can a customized ford taurus really be? :D
 

Twidget

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You go Foggie. :) <br /><br />After listening to my Grandmother tell stories about raising six kids during the depression and my mom telling stories about being a kid in WWII, I try not to complain much. I remember how my Grandmother lived in the 60's and she felt rich compared to the depression. <br /><br />My inlaws were kids in Germany during the war. Granted Germany started it all, but the kids didnt have anything to do with it. They have some interesting stories also.<br /><br />I thank God that I have never had to go through what they did. I have no desire to be able to give a first hand account of the stories I have heard from both sides of the family. <br /><br />I have had a good life, it has had its ups and downs but the lows have been a lot higher than what my ancestors faced.
 

Pony

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Originally posted by RubberFrog:<br />
Originally posted by P.O.N.Y.:<br />
Originally posted by 12Feetz:<br /> Depression<br />December 7th,1941
I'm sure 40 years from now some old guy will call all the kids lazy and dumb and then there will be a response like "September 11" or something along those lines.
Was there a depression before 9-11? Please don't tell me you are comparing the Iraq war to WWII (No offense to those who are serving). <br /><br />I don't care how hard school is for you poor babies. Talk to your grandparents and great grand parents about the depression.<br /><br />School is a fashion show... who do you think is paying for the clothes you wear to the fashion show? Just so you know, clothes were an issue in the 80's also. Do you have any idea how expensive that Miami Vice look was? ;) <br /><br />Car expenses... whose paying your rent and buying your food so you can spend your money on a car? As near as I recall, we had to pay for gas and insurance back then as well. :eek: <br /><br />Poor babies... they have to wear nice clothes and drive cars to go buy lunch and worry about knocking up there girlfriends :( <br /><br />Do you realize how rediculous that sounds? :confused:
Yeah I do realize how rIdiculous that sounds, and I am not comparing WWII to Sept 11. I obviously wasnt clear enough, as I expect people to be able to read between the lines more than they do. It was a simple comparison........IF a World War were to start in the next few years, that would be an important date to those who serve in it. Thats it, don't read into it any more than that.......although I suspect that saying that won't stop someone from doing so.<br /><br />I never said anything about going to school etc or paying for gas and car insurance. Like you I find that a ridiculous argument. As to the questions you propose in that part of your reply........No one is paying for any of those things except for me. I bought my truck, boat, and pay for all the upkeep on them. I don't get things handed to me, but many kids of today do.....I DO THINK WE HAVE IT EASIER<br /><br />Who was comparing school to the Depression?? I certainly wasn't. I even said I " value their expiriences and understand they lived through a lot". I just don't think going through the Depression or WWII constitutes calling an entire generation "lazy and dumb". That was really the only point I tried to make. I would be stupid to think that I couldn't learn a great deal from my elders. I talk to my grandpa all the time and in no way think his life was easier.....I KNOW it was harder and just as dangerous.<br /><br />Like I tried saying before.....it doesnt have much if anything to do with school, cars, or dates in history........its the parenting and society. And wether anyone likes to admit that or not, its a indirect result of the parenting by the very people who complain that this generation is lazy and dumb. (no one on this board, so don't get all mad and post how much you hate me now). I guess the only part of GQ's post I was agreeing with is the "lazy and dumb" attitude being wrong...
 

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Originally posted by P.O.N.Y.:<br />...no one on this board, so don't get all mad and post how much you hate me now.
I HATE YOU!! Just kidding.... :D
 

Pony

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Originally posted by RubberFrog:<br />
Originally posted by P.O.N.Y.:<br />...no one on this board, so don't get all mad and post how much you hate me now.
I HATE YOU!! Just kidding.... :D
LMAO :D
 

Gone

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Don't know if this fits into the smarter/dumber dicussion but here goes:<br /><br />Saw a blurb on CNN yesterday where an "expert" was predicting that the "hippies" that lived the commune lifestyle in the 60's would be retiring into Communes 20 years from now.<br /><br />I expect that he was really a developer trying to cultivate an idea of his to market property.
 

tommays

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Poor is like my Dad was back then :( <br /><br />His dad died and they were put out on the street the day of the funeral :eek: 4 years old pulling the familys stuff down the streets of wilmington del in a wagon<br /><br />They lucked out and a nother family menber packed everbody in BUT my dad and uncle had to go to a different house to sleep at 4 and 6 years old <br /><br />tommays
 

scrapper

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And the beat go's on , And the beat go's on ! Kinda like life, Everthing changes , but stays the same!
 

brine

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Too complicated to generalize. Kids dont have it any easier. They have it different.
 
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