Retirement

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DJ

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Retirement Moneys...<br /><br />I wonder how many people are aware of this information. Love him or loath him, he nailed this one right on the head By Rush Limbaugh:<br /><br />I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform are<br />profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.<br /><br />Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.<br /><br />If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.<br />If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed In action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry.<br />And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.<br /><br />Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.<br />We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.<br /><br />You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad.<br /><br />Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle<br />East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?<br /><br />However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.<br /><br />If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters<br />who are now fighting.<br /><br />"When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.<br />If your interested there is .......................?<br />This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going. SOCIAL SECURITY:<br /><br />(This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.)<br /><br />Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years ago<br />they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical purposes<br />their plan works like this: When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments. <br /><br />For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives.<br />This is calculated on an average life span for each.<br /><br />Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this<br />plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Fund-our tax dollars at work! From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into-every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one monthto equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!<br /><br />Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made. And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.
 

tradin

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Re: Retirement

wow that was worth the read and i,m canadian i,m sorry things have to get that far its just does not seem right :eek: :mad:
 

bubbakat

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Re: Retirement

Djohns a prime example is a marine that died with cancer a couple yrs back. He was deep in debt with medical bills<br />He laid his life on the line in the 60's for the government and the politicians turned a blind eye to him <br />They refused to help him and his family. <br />He was none other than Carlos Hathcock the best sniper the marines ever had bar none.<br />Met him in vietnam and he was a very self conciese man but our beloved leaders shoved him behind the door of political red tape when he lost his usefulness to them.<br />so I say d@#$m the politicians and I mean all of them you can't change them because every one of them are greedy. I am going to shut up now I'll be mad for a month.<br />Oh by the way I do vote so I do try to change things at election but it is always to no avail
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snapperbait

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Re: Retirement

Typical self serving politicians... The grunt gets dumped on while the fat cat gets fatter... <br /><br />The split is just getting wider... One day we must say, NO MORE! A Civil War against or government is imminent if things keep going this way..<br /><br />Social Security<br />Term Limits<br />Campaign finance Reform<br /><br />I proudly cast my ballot each election... (even if it does'nt get counted)
 

OBJ

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Re: Retirement

After near 40 years toil I'm looking at retirement next year. I'm going early at 57 and although I know I can make it, I'm scared. And just looking at that post makes me even more scared. I new about how our "elected officals" and their ability to vote in a raise anytime they get an itch. Makes a person want to vomit. <br /><br />They spend just four (?) years in office and they can retire. What a load of crap. And please don't no one give me any crap about how hard they work or what they do is deserving of what they get (not that I think anyone will). Ain't no one on Gods green earth worth all that. Sure....give them their just due while in office, but once they are out....sorry...back on the payroll ya' go. Figure your own way through life just like us peons do.<br /><br />What say we all get together and let them know, hey....enough is enough....help out the working man for a change or forget about elections cause ain't no one going to vote for this crap any longer.<br /><br />It's hard to stifle ones self from anger so close to retirement knowing this crap goes on and here I am counting pennies just to make double sure I can provide....but **** !!!! This really burns my S**T!!!!!<br /><br />I'm done.
 

NOSLEEP

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Re: Retirement

Government is littered with what I call white<br />collar criminals, and this is just one more <br />example.
 

Jack Shellac

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Re: Retirement

I can't believe that about Carlos Hathcock. The man's a legend in the Corps and has had books written about him. That dosn't say much for our political leaders, but I believe it's always been that way. The guys out on the sharp end usually wind up getting the sharp end from their so-called leaders.
 
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