RPM drop at high RPM

kitecop917

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What would cause an RPM drop at high RPM on a 2 stroke carbed 2003 200XL SWB? Once i hit 5k with a 21p prop or 6200ish with a 19p i get sudden RPM drop.
Fuel issue has been ruled out completely. I have replaced all fuel lines, anti-siphon valves and filters. The tank vent is not clogged, carbs are clean and all feeding fuel evenly at WOT. I am also only getting 32mph with a 19P prop at 6000rpms.

Did some diagnosis today. here is a list of what i did.

-observed carbs with air box off- even and normal fuel flow at WOT.
-ran with gas cap off- no noticeable changes
-ran on an aux tank- no difference
- replaced spark plugs one at a time and did a test run between each change- no changes
- cleaned grounds that are attached to the power pack plate- no change
- did compression check- all cylinders are 120psi or just over
-observed ride plate while at speed. its completely submerged so i will have to raise motor a good 2-3"

Im thinking the motor height is what is creating so much slip and lack of speed but the bogging has got to be an electrical issue. I think my next step is testing power packs... something is failing under load.
 

wired247

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The port side black boxes that retard timing when you get to say...6200 RPM. The idle stabilizer.Disconnect it and retime for 25 degrees total timing. Chuck it.
 

Dukedog

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could be mech fuel pump maybe? sounds like it does it when load is increased.. control module or cdm maybe?....you don't have tha module he's talkin' about.... they went away with tha 'lectronic motor like yours...tha control module pretty much controls tha whole thing....

forgot ta ask...what is a "sudden drop"?.. how much? does it run at top rpms for any length of time then drop off? what kinda boat? what kinda props? set up been tweaked yet?
 
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kitecop917

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The port side black boxes that retard timing when you get to say...6200 RPM. The idle stabilizer.Disconnect it and retime for 25 degrees total timing. Chuck it.

I verified the timing today. 8 at idle and 25 for high end. As far as i know my motor has a control module and a CDM unit for each cylinder so i don't think it has the timing unit you speak of.
 

kitecop917

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could be mech fuel pump maybe? sounds like it does it when load is increased.. control module or cdm maybe?....you don't have tha module he's talkin' about.... they went away with tha 'lectronic motor like yours...tha control module pretty much controls tha whole thing....

forgot ta ask...what is a "sudden drop"?.. how much? does it run at top rpms for any length of time then drop off? what kinda boat? what kinda props? set up been tweaked yet?

sudden drop is 2k then continues to go down from there till idle unless i back off and throttle back up again. Ive already looked into the fuel pump, its fine. As soon as i hit top RPMs for waterer prop I'm running it backs off immediately.

the boat is a 2003 proline 22 sport (3000lbs dry) the 19P prop I've been testing with is a generic merc 3 blade SS and the 21P is a mirage plus.

Should i try getting one new CDM first and swap it out one by one to see if i get a change or should i just go right to the control module?
 
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