runs but no charge

Thumbtack

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Johnson J30ECOA, engine runs good but does not charge battery. is there anything other than the stator that can cause this?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: runs but no charge

(Small Rectifier Description & Location)
(J. Reeves)

On most 3,4,6 cylinder engines, the small rectifier is located on the starboard (right) side of the engine just in front of the engines electrical wiring strip. There are a few older V4 engines that have the wiring strip on the rear portion of the engine and the rectifier would be located just under that terminal strip. The smaller horsepower engines usually have the rectifier located on the starboard side of the powerhead close to the carburetor area.

The rectifier appears to be a round object approximately one inch (1") in diameter and also about one inch (1") high. The base of it is sort of triangular in appearance and is attached to the engine with two (2) screws/bolts..... usually one screw/bolt is larger than the other. The rectifier, depending on which one your engine uses, will have either:

One Red wire, one Yellow wire, and one Yellow/Gray wire, or One Red wire, and two Yellow wires.

Note that either of the above rectifiers could have a fourth wire which would be Yellow/Blue

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(Small Rectifier Test)
(J. Reeves)

Remove the rectifier wires from the terminal block. Using a ohm meter, connect the black lead of the ohm meter to the rectifier base (ground), then one by one, connect the red lead of the ohm meter to the yellow, yellow/gray, then the red wire (some rectifiers may also have a fourth yellow/blue wire. If so connect to that also). Now, reverse the ohm meter leads and check those same wires again. You should get a reading in one direction, and none at all in the other direction.

Now, connect the black lead of the ohm meter to the red wire. One by one, connect the red lead of the ohm meter to the yellow, yellow/gray, and if present, the yellow/blue wire. Then reverse the leads, checking the wires again. Once more, you should get a reading in one direction and none in the other.

Note that the reading obtained from the red rectifier wire will be lower then what is obtained from the other wires.

Any deviation from the "Reading", "No Reading" as above indicates a faulty rectifier. Note that a rectifier will not tolerate reverse polarity. Simply touching the battery with the cables in the reverse order or hooking up a battery charger backwards will blow the diodes in the rectifier assy immediately.
 

Thumbtack

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Re: runs but no charge

thanks, i couldn't have asked for a better response!!!
 

Thumbtack

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Re: runs but no charge

ok, i checked the rectifier and it seems fine. everything reads where it is supposed to and only in the one direction. I already disconnected the wires for the charge coil (3 yellow wires) and was wondering about how to test that, is there a way?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: runs but no charge

I don't have a service manual in front of me and don't remember the exact readings of the stator. Your local library may have a manual where you could obtain those readings, or possibly another member will jump in here with them.
 

Thumbtack

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Re: runs but no charge

ok i changed the charge coil, so i know that is good. and i tested the regulator rectifier and that is good as well. I've got one question, will this charge at all times or only if it detects the battery is low? Like if i rev up the engine should it always go above 13v. or only if the battery is undercharged?

The reason i'm curious is because i am getting weird meter readings. When i rev the engine up it goes from 12.6 to about 12.8, and i rev it up pretty high too.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: runs but no charge

it charges by the revolutions of the motor. the motor is not designed to charge the battery, it maintains, a charged battery. to support the starting of the motor. if running electronics, and trolling motor, do not expect it to keep up. you need to fully charge the battery at home.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: runs but no charge

In addition to Tash's reply, that engine incorporates only a 4 ampere charging system. It'll keep the battery charged.... just don't try to run the air conditioner with it (grin)
 

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Re: runs but no charge

thanks, the only electronics i have on it is one of those stupid bilge pumps that turns on by itself about every other minute then turns off after two seconds just to see if there is water in the boat. But i use the boat everyday so it should be able to keep up with that. I guess i don't have to worry about the meter not reading above 13v when i rev the engine up then?
 
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