Salmon & the Columbia

newhewes

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Anyone interested in sharing how to fish for spring salmon below the Bonneville Dam? I would like to do this but not sure what to use, color, best methods, and how to determine where to fish. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
 

llfish

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

It has been 30 years since the last time I fished that area. We used silver flashers. Well that was just about there was then.<br /><br />I will be in that area in mid April and will ask some bait shops owners for you. Then I will post it back here,<br /><br />good luck.
 

newhewes

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

Thanks you I appriciate you doing that. I am hoping to be able to fish out there sometime in March/April. Have been looking on the internet and it seems that they use kwikfish and flatfish alot but haven't seen much on where or how to locate the fish.
 

truck

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

you can troll herring, regular or plug cut. they both work. Diver, a big flasher, like a dodger or fish-flash, 2-3 ft. of leader, chain swivel, 2-3 more feet of leader, than the herring. There are many scent jellys available, I have no preferances, they all work. That is the setup I use, and see others using. good luck
 

Capn Mike

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

Maybe done a little fishing on the Columbia ;) <br /><br />Bright green K-lures in spring, size 14, 15 & 16, depending upon the current and the color of the water. Use a little smelly stuff (herring) on a piece of house insulation or foam tied on, or tie on a chunk of sardine. No divers, unless you're using cut plugs like 9.8 merc does.<br /><br />Anchor in a hog line, or if you're shy, in 25-30'. Best current is 2-3 mph, 4 tops. Fish on out-going tide, or any tide change. Troll @ the mouth of the Willamette, again slooooowwww. The big discussions are whether treble or single siwash hooks work best.<br /><br />In late spring, summer, switch to Alvins, Brads or whatever the new hot spoons are. Bright orange, reds early on, blue and darker greens toward July, August. 2003 was a silver/chrome blue or dark green year, 2004 was hammered brass with light green (gee...is it because the fish go after those colors or because everyone uses those colors? Could it be fishermen are superstitious???!!!) :eek: <br /><br />Luhr Jensen has a bunch of pamphlets devoted to the cause, featuring, of course, their lures. Good advise. You might be able to find them on-line, or write them. Most of the shops here in town have them as well.<br /><br />When to fish where is always the fun mystery. We know about when the runs are coming, but not how fast or how many. When they start catching fish in Longview/Kelso, we know they'll be @ the mouth of the Lewis 2 weeks later, Govt Island a week later than that. Willamette fish are the earliest, smaller than Columbia, Lewis or Idaho fish. We'll start watching for them in March...who knows, though?
 

newhewes

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

I appriciate the responses. Out here we have the fresh water Kokanee which when they come up stream to spawn they all seem to hold in the bigger deeper pools. I know there is a lot of differences but I was wondering if the salmon in the Columbia tend to do the same thing?
 

Link

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

Originally posted by dsmith84:<br /> I appriciate the responses. Out here we have the fresh water Kokanee which when they come up stream to spawn they all seem to hold in the bigger deeper pools. I know there is a lot of differences but I was wondering if the salmon in the Columbia tend to do the same thing?
Spawning is a totally different thing. Salmon when spawning will mill around where they want to go up a creek or river getting used to the fresh water. They are not instrested in eating. (same with Kokanee) Kokanne however tend to look for pools because there are so many of them in a small area. Salmon while acklamenting (sp) to the fresh water will swim in the shallow water next to shore. 1 - 15 feet of water. There will be hundreds of them all swimming together! <br />In the Hoods Canal where there is a Fishery where they came from, we use a 6oz sinker on a low tide and a 18" leader with a corky (to make it float) then a bare hook with a 2" - 6" piece of yarn on it. The salmon are not intrested in eating.. they just see it and want to move it. They take the hook with yarn into thier mouth and move it. (This takes a stiff pole with no slack) Since there is no strike and it is usually done at night you have to watch your pole.. when the line moves you set the hook and keep the tip up.. dont get distracted by the water churning/boiling with hundreds of salmon being spooked! They do it every time. I just described my first time doing this.. we caught 0 the first time but had a good time.. since then we always limited out. But comming home at 3am always makes it more fun! :D
 

Capn Mike

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

Remember in the lower Columbia, all the salmon are going somewhere else. Maybe one of the tributaries (Elocman, Cowlitz, Lewis, Willamette, or Snake), or up-river (Hanford Reach). If they're in their destination river, say, the Kalama, they'll hang around in pools while waiting to spawn, or until conditions are right. Sometimes....particularly fall salmon....they'll hang around the mouth of the tributary river waiting for the fall rains. But in the spring, water levels are not usually a concern, so they're zipping right along.<br /><br />Link is right, they're not interested in eating....but they are very territorial, and the prevailing wisdom is that they're hitting your lure because of the instinct to chase away any predators, or because of that instinct to eat (remember, they've just spent the last 3 years eating almost continuously). Except in the upper tributaries, where we get the milling around like Link talks about, unlike Hoods Canal salmon, Columbia river chinook (and cohos to a lesser extent) hit pretty hard, and will bend the pole immediatly (is there a neater sound in all the world than a reel zzzzz .....zzzzz ....zzzzzzzz!? <br /><br />Because of the need to conserve energy (Snake river origin fish will be traveling hundreds of miles up the Columbia), they need to keep moving, not in the middle where the currents are strongest, but along the sides where the currents are slower. That's where we anchor and/or set up our hog lines. For Willamette fish, we troll @ the mouth or canals.....very slowly.
 

llfish

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Re: Salmon & the Columbia

Dsmit84 Talked to a couple of friends about Salmon tackle. I think if you follow Capin mike's suggestions you will do ok.<br /><br />There may not be any water in the Columbia if the snow does not fly.
 

Capn Mike

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I see a couple of local stores have Kwikfish http://www.luhrjensen.com/prod_lure_select.cfm?Stock=5414&CategoryID=20&ProductNo=5414-014-0734 <br />on sale for about $4. Get the size 15 for most uses, and 16 for dirty water. The silver/green, silver/chartruese are the best colors; later in the spring, silver/blue. Juice it up with some stick-on tape in bright green, pink and/or orange.<br /><br />llfish is right...we had nice snow in the mountains until a week ago, when some warm sun and rain melted a bunch of it. It's supposed to cool down this week and hopefully we'll get some snowpack back. The Columbia's water supply is most affected by Washington and B.C.s snowpack, so the lack of snow in Oregon won't affect it as much. Dang El Nino...<br />Even if the river is low, keep in mind it's still a big river and water will flow. It's just that the fish hang around for a little rain, then race up the river....the time to be fishing is more critical then ("Hey....should have been here yesterday....")
 
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