seafoam

bamaboaters

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Is this additive really worth it? Does it really do anything? I'm not having any issues, I just come across a post about it every now and again suggesting I use it to keep my engine clean.<br />Thoughts?
 

Silvertip

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Sorry KaGee -- it is not snake oil by any means. More fuel system problems would be avoided if people ran it or similar products. It doesn't have to be used every tank of fuel. However an initial "treatment" and then a small amount added to every tank will ensure the fuel system and injectors/carbs stay clean. This is even more important if there are long periods between boat uses.
 

vipzach

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I don't think it is snake oil either! I do not put it in every tank, but I do put it in every couple of tanks. There are products out there that are a complete waste of money, but seafoam isn't one of them.
 

John_S

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I use Seafoam treatment on my 2cycle outboards. I ran them in large garbage cans. For doing nothing, there was an awful amount of black carbon type crap in the water! :rolleyes:
 

paulrfrancisco

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there was an awful amount of black carbon type crap in the water!
That would be the burned oil in the fuel oil mixture...<br /><br />I know nothing about Seafoam, but... how can one say it prevents an event that you'll never know if it would have happened if you hadn't used the product in the first place? errr. I think I said that right...
 

Trent

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Seafoam, Berryman's B12, Techrolon all good additives. Use every so often to keep your fuel system clean.
 

Doug Durako

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I use it and a little Stabil in every gas tank (mower, weed wacker, chain saw, jet ski, Evinrude outboard, log splitter, tiller, new boat, old boat, etc.) in which gas will sit for more than three days. "I think I said that right."<br /><br />I have never had a fuel-related problem of any kind in any of these, the oldest is the 1984 Evinrude.
 

skicat

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I don't know what is in seafoam, but I do know it works. I use it in every internal combustion engine I own.
 

Scaaty

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Originally posted by John_S:<br /> there was an awful amount of black carbon type crap in the water! :rolleyes:
Pretty sticky situation here. I've NEVER used Seafoam (4 boats, more motorcycles than fingers), and have NEVER had a fuel problem. And my 125 Outboard will run with the rest no problem. I just Stabil gas that I know will sit. And probably better to run a tank of Chevron with Techron through it instead...cheaper...does the same thing. You say ya get a garbage can fulla crap everytime ya use it. Try this and get back to us. Get your bucket of crap, toss it out, and do it again, and see what ya get. Get more? If ya do where is it coming from this time?<br />PS. I also get a bucket of crap in my garbage can on running my kicker motors...don't need Seafoam to make the crap.
 

Boatist

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I have not used Seafoam either but belive it works. I have used OMC engine tuner but did not belive it would make a difference. I used it on 15 Hp 2 stroke Johnson that was hard to start, and fouled plugs every 4 hours. I had been fighting that problem for two years.<br /><br />After useing OMC engine tunner gained 7 pounds of compression, motor starts in half a pull, and has not fouled a plug since. After useing it had to change plugs and make big change in low speed idle mixture.
 

John_S

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That would be the burned oil in the fuel oil mixture...<br />
Ahhh... it was much more than the normal burned oil/fuel mixture. I've run them in garbage cans, many times before. The garbage can gives a more "real life" back pressure than just running on muffs. <br /><br />I did a 1980's Nissan 40C and 1997 18E, last spring. Both had never been done before. Both took two treatments. ie this is the spray in carb throat stuff, running it, then let the engine set, and restart X minutes latter. In both engines, the 2nd treatment produced much less carbon deposits. Also much less smoke on the 2nd treatment. On the first treatment, thought I was going to fog out everyone in the nieghborhood! <br /><br />But, maybe all the black crap and smoke just comes from the can of cleaner, and is just part of the "special effects"! :D
 

Bondo

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Considering the Fact that this is the I/O forum,+ Not the Outboard forum,..............<br /><br />I'm with Kagee,.......<br /><br />With a 4-stroke engine,....... Plain ole Water will do the Exact Same Thing,............ For FREE..............<br /><br />If you've ever seen a motor that had a Water Intrusion Issue,..... <br />You'll Know just how Clean Water will get the insides of the combustion chambers........
 

KaGee

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Thanks Bondo, for a moment, I felt like I was on an island all by my lonesome. <br /><br />I don't know why guys can't get it through their mind that 2-stroke and 4-stroke are two different animals. <br /><br />Personally, any 4-stroke that needs "decarbonized" has deeper problems than a Seafoam or any other additive will solve.<br /><br />Good fuel and stabilization, good seperation/filtration along with proper maintenance should keep your motor ship-shape!
 

John_S

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Water will clean it, but that doesn't mean that Seafoam will not. It is a more cost effective way to clean a carbed 4-stroke. Don't know if it would clean it as fast or maybe faster, or as effectively as Seafoam. Seafoam is not that expensive anyway. <br /><br /> I am reading from Kagee's response though, that he considers Seafoam a "sugar pill", ie it does nothing. Which is not the case. On an injected engine, adding water might be a bit of a problem. I wouldn't try water on a 2 stroke carb, for would be concerned with water in the crankcase. <br /><br />OMC also had its version of Seafoam. They called it some tune-up name. Used it on a '77 Johnson 35hp and 60's 10 hp sport twin, with the same results. It does clean carbon out of the cylinders.
 

Bondo

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On an injected engine, adding water might be a bit of a problem.
No Problem At All,......<br /><br />To Clean an engine with Water,....... It's introduced thru the In-coming Air Flow..........<br />Carbed....<br />EFI....<br />MPI.....<br />It Doesn't Matter.......<br /><br />A Pint of Water,.. introduced while the motor is run at 1200/1500rpms,... produces a Clean Motor, as soon as your water bottle is Empty..... Done.....<br />
I wouldn't try water on a 2 stroke carb, for would be concerned with water in the crankcase.
That's clearly addressed in my 1st post......<br /><br />This is the I/O forum,..... Not the Outboard forum.........<br /><br /> And ,........ Neither Kagee, Nor Myself ever said that the Stuff Doesn't have a Proper Place,..............<br />We're just saying It's a Waste of Money for an I/O motor,... With No Added Value, over Simple, Free, Water ................
 

Silvertip

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And I thought we were talking about the fuel system!!!! Carbon removal is yet another use for SeaFoam. Also works well for cleaning the throttle body on injected engines. Ever take one off and look at the back side of the throttle plate?
 

John_S

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Neither Kagee, Nor Myself ever said that the Stuff Doesn't have a Proper Place,..............<br />We're just saying It's a Waste of Money for an I/O motor,... With No Added Value, over Simple, Free, Water ................<br />
I clearly missed where Kagee implied using water instead of Seafoam. It must have been in the wink icon. Again, I took his post to mean, Seafoam does nothing. <br /><br />As far as its effectiveness on cleaing internal carb and injector passages, along with fuel lines, I don't know how effective it is. <br /><br />
Personally, any 4-stroke that needs "decarbonized" has deeper problems than a Seafoam or any other additive will solve.<br /><br />Good fuel and stabilization, good seperation/filtration along with proper maintenance should keep your motor ship-shape! <br />
You can get more carbon buildup in engines that spend allot of time at low rpms, such as no wake zones and trolling. Especially if you don't run it up in rpms to clean them out. Also, if you didn't have that perfectly maintained engine, such as timing off, tank of bad gas, etc, you may have carbon build-up. Seafoam or water will help clean those carbon deposits out. <br /><br />Going back to the original post, I mis-interupted the "additive". I assumed that meant using the non-spray form of seafoam, in heavy concentration, to do the same thing as spraying in the carb. Adding a smaller dose to every tank, for your everyday running may provide some benifit, but I wouldn't bother with that, for any of my engines. So, in this form of usage, I guess we are in agreement. Where is that swallow your sword icon? :rolleyes:
 

javsam

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I've used seafoam in both 2 stroke and 4 stroke engines and found it to be a very good cleaner of carbon deposits and fuel cleaning, it also keeps gas stabilized.<br />javsam
 

KaGee

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Hey, the man asked for thoughts.<br />Everybody has their own.<br /><br />If you think it's good, knock yourself out. It won't hurt anything.... that I'm aware of.<br /><br />One thing is for sure... you will See your cash literally turn into Foam!
 
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