Seized Teleflex Steering???

Engine344

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Hey all, just purchased my 12th boat....(my wife loves me very much LOL :D) it is a 16 foot Fisher Bass boat with a 75 Hp Mariner. The boat sat in a garage for the past 6 seasons. The engine was winterized and cleaned and started right up.......However the teleflex is seized!!! I know this is an issue and I have heard of this before, my question is have any of you guys had any luck freeing one up, or is this something I should just replace?? Thanks all in advance!
 
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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

well on one of my buddy boat his teliflex seized up because he didn't grease if for a season and it didn't turn after he de winterized it. He ended up replacing the part that is connected to the motor not the hole line.
 

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

I have everything disconnected at the outboard...was not in the tube, outboard moves freely so not the king pin....just wanted to see if this was an easy fix or just replace?
 

Jeep Man

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

If you have disconnected at the motor and the steering is still seized, the next thing to do is disconnect the cable from the mechanism at the steering wheel. Post back if you need instruction on how to disconnect.
 

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

Jeep, if the steering was working "just fine" as I was told and then sat for 6 seasons I am assuming it is in the cable....I have not disconnected the cable from the steering rack yet. I am doubting that it is there.....I am steering towards lack of grease/lubrication in the past? Will penetrating oil or working in a lubricant make for a reliable cable, or even free it up at all? This is a very low hour boat......thinking this is a neglect issue?
 

'78 Crusader

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

Don't bother wasting your time trying to fix it, replace the cable and helm at the same time. I replaced the teleflex cable in my jet boat last fall and should have replaced the helm too, I didnt and now there's a lot of play in my steering.

You'll never get your frozen cable loose enough to steer comfortably on the water.
 

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

Cables are not a repair item but a replacement item found here in the iboats store. What year Fisher is it? Is it decked in aluminum or with plywood? Great boats.
 

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

Don't bother wasting your time trying to fix it, replace the cable and helm at the same time. I replaced the teleflex cable in my jet boat last fall and should have replaced the helm too, I didnt and now there's a lot of play in my steering.

You'll never get your frozen cable loose enough to steer comfortably on the water.

Cables are not a repair item but a replacement item

Exactly x2. For the minimal price on most cables, I would never trust a repaired one with my family on board.
 

Overkill82k5

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

I had a similar problem with my boat when I first got it. It had sat for a few years unused and the steering moved, but it took a cheater bar on the steering wheel to make it move. I needed to redo the deck, stringers and transom before I could actually use it anyway so I played with the steering cable in the meantime just to see if I "could" fix it.

I pulled the cable out of the tilt tube and clamped a length of silicon hose over the end of the cable. I put a pint of 80/90 wt gear oil in the hose and hooked the air compressor to the open end with about 3-10 psi on it and let it sit overnight. The next morning half of the oil had been air pushed up into the steering cable. I worked the wheel back and forth and the more I worked it, the easier it got (with air pressurized oil still being pushed from the motor end). It didnt take long unitl oil and air started pushing through the steering rack. It was a messy affair but I havent had any issues with the cable since then (3 years or so). I still get some oil drops out of the steering tube once in a while but the steering is smooth and easy. I suppose when I quit seeing the residue it will be time for a "refill". haha.

IF you have the means to just replace the cable, that would be the safest to do. I just wanted to share an option in case you were a broke bloke like me. This method is on these forums somewhere, I think the resto section, so I cant take credit for it. Also, success will depend on just how bad your cable really is on the inside. Mine apparently was just dry and cemented to the sheath by the old dried up grease. Good luck.
 

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

I had a similar problem with my boat when I first got it. It had sat for a few years unused and the steering moved, but it took a cheater bar on the steering wheel to make it move. I needed to redo the deck, stringers and transom before I could actually use it anyway so I played with the steering cable in the meantime just to see if I "could" fix it.

I pulled the cable out of the tilt tube and clamped a length of silicon hose over the end of the cable. I put a pint of 80/90 wt gear oil in the hose and hooked the air compressor to the open end with about 3-10 psi on it and let it sit overnight. The next morning half of the oil had been air pushed up into the steering cable. I worked the wheel back and forth and the more I worked it, the easier it got (with air pressurized oil still being pushed from the motor end). It didnt take long unitl oil and air started pushing through the steering rack. It was a messy affair but I havent had any issues with the cable since then (3 years or so). I still get some oil drops out of the steering tube once in a while but the steering is smooth and easy. I suppose when I quit seeing the residue it will be time for a "refill". haha.

IF you have the means to just replace the cable, that would be the safest to do. I just wanted to share an option in case you were a broke bloke like me. This method is on these forums somewhere, I think the resto section, so I cant take credit for it. Also, success will depend on just how bad your cable really is on the inside. Mine apparently was just dry and cemented to the sheath by the old dried up grease. Good luck.

I'm on my 3rd dual cable in my 1996 Walleye rig. When I'm on plane and come to a quick stop, the back of the outboard and cable gets submersed. Please fill me in on how you were able to pressurize the cable to inject oil. What type of fitting and at what location? Thanks in advance, as I'd be using this procedure as a preventive maintenance measure.
 

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

I'm on my 3rd dual cable in my 1996 Walleye rig. When I'm on plane and come to a quick stop, the back of the outboard and cable gets submersed. Please fill me in on how you were able to pressurize the cable to inject oil. What type of fitting and at what location? Thanks in advance, as I'd be using this procedure as a preventive maintenance measure.

You just need a (preferably clear) piece of tubing about 1 -2 foot long that will stretch over the motor end of the steering cable and small enough for a decent fit on the air tool fitting. Maybe around 3/8" ID tubing. And make sure your compressor has an adjustable pressure regulator on it.

Turn the regulator down to zero, ie. no air flowing with an open hose end.

You will have to turn your steering all the way one way to get the steering ram to retreat into the outer tube to get the silicon hose over the right part.

zip tie (or clamp, if you wish to re-use every season) the clear tubing to the steering cable end (outside sheath, not the ram that moves in and out of the steering cable).

Add a couple ounces of lube and then clamp the tubing to the threaded air tool fitting.

Make sure the clear hose is raised up on the air hose end (to keep the oil on the steering cable end by gravity assist).

Slowly add just a little pressure on the regulator adjustment. It doesnt take alot of pressure, just some patience to let the oil slowly flow up the steering cable line. You will know if you get too much pressure when the silicon hose bursts or you hear the air flowing from under the helm.

You will be able to turn the steering wheel slightly back and forth to work the lube up the line. Just dont turn it too far or the ram will push the clear hose off and you will end up with oil everywhere around the motor.

It can be a messy ordeal. You should have some kind of catch pan or rags under the steering box because oil will flow all the way into the gear box, or rack. It will also drip out for some time after you're long done with the project. Not recommended if you have carpet under the helm.

Start out with just a couple ounces of lube. I made the mistake of using a pint and there was a whole lot of cleanup afterwards.... What? Where did you think the name Overkill came from?

Good luck. Also, there are synthetic and water proof (resistant?) lubes out there. I used gear oil just because that's what I had sitting on the shelf at the time. There are likely better alternatives to stinky 80/90 wt gear oil.

Hope this all makes sense, if not, just ask and I can try to clarify if needed...
 

Engine344

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

Just ordered a new cable, thanks all....I love getting advice here before dropping the jing! You guys were very helpful.
 

'78 Crusader

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Re: Seized Teleflex Steering???

Just ordered a new cable, thanks all....I love getting advice here before dropping the jing! You guys were very helpful.

I hope you ordered a cable and helm assembly as it's usually best to replace them both at the same time. Cost a little more $$ upfront but worth it in the end.
 
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