Still Worried

revjim

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I posted back that I sprayed a URETHANE ENAMEL (LIMCO) on my boat.
  1. I sprayed outdoors...no containment
I used two thick 3m paint masks over nose and mouth
  1. used gloves, long sleeves and goggles or glasses 99% of the time.
  2. sprayed one quart
I again need some reassurance that I have not hurt my lungs...

Thanks again...
 

erikgreen

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Re: Still Worried

You're being waaay paranoid. :) :)

The stuff you're spraying is a mix of chemicals and pigments. It's not toxic waste, and while it's not the best stuff to breathe or eat, it's not as toxic as eg. PCBs or dioxin.

It's also not carcinogenic (that's basically not allowed to be used, for the obvious reasons), it's not radioactive, and it's not a slow acting poison.

Think of it this way... if you drank a can of paint, you'd get really sick right away, and you might die from eating that much of those chemicals, but you're going to know almost right away. It's not delayed action.

Also, the amounts that you might have been breathing of this stuff outside are minimal... you didn't get a half can or quarter can of paint into your lungs, you probably got a small amount of vapor (not particles) into your lungs if you were breathing deeply, less if you did the usual thing and tried not to breathe the really stinky fumes (because they smell bad).

You'd probably do more damage to your lungs smoking a pack of cigarettes than doing this one paint job outside, and you'd have more long term risk of cancer too.

If you're still concerned after this, rather than posting to an internet bbs call the manufacturer of the paint and tell them what you did... they should be able to tell you the exact medical consequences of getting the stuff in your body. Or, you could talk to a doctor and give him a copy of the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for the paint and he can tell you how likely it is to be a problem.

But basically you're fine at this point, unless you started coughing and vomiting less than 12 hours after painting you didn't get more than a miniscule amount in your lungs.

Erik
 

RCNO

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Re: Still Worried

As long as your not in California I think your ok, every label I read always says something about "this product has been known to cause cancer in the state of California"...or something like that.:D:D:D:D

On a serious note, I have seen guys spray paint in the shipyards down here for years, and every day they have the same paint stripe on both sides of their nose from where the respirator didnt seal. MOST of these guys are ok, some just aint in their right minds though.
 

1970 Chieftain V

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Re: Still Worried

As long as your not in California I think your ok, every label I read always says something about "this product has been known to cause cancer in the state of California"...or something like that.:D:D:D:D

Even new cars come with that sticker on it here in California.

Jason
 
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Re: Still Worried

If it hurt you ,you would KNOW it ..As far as the long term cancer thing I would avoid doing it more than about 75 times.
 

jonesg

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Re: Still Worried

I posted back that I sprayed a URETHANE ENAMEL (LIMCO) on my boat.
  1. I sprayed outdoors...no containment
I used two thick 3m paint masks over nose and mouth
  1. used gloves, long sleeves and goggles or glasses 99% of the time.
  2. sprayed one quart
I again need some reassurance that I have not hurt my lungs...

Thanks again...

No-one can assure your fears away because you won't let go of them.
 

TheWoodCrafter

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Re: Still Worried

I posted back that I sprayed a URETHANE ENAMEL (LIMCO) on my boat.
  1. I sprayed outdoors...no containment
I used two thick 3m paint masks over nose and mouth
  1. used gloves, long sleeves and goggles or glasses 99% of the time.
  2. sprayed one quart
I again need some reassurance that I have not hurt my lungs...

Thanks again...

I would be getting my affairs in order.
Then go out and live your life.
 

Ezrider_92356

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Re: Still Worried

if your so worried about it get the MSDS (material safety data sheet) sheet and take a trip to the doctor and tell them what you did. if they did not supply you one when you purchased it then its probably not that bad of stuff. however you can still go to where you purchased it from and ask for a copy.
 

revjim

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Re: Still Worried

okay...we can close this thread...called the Poison group and they said I am fine...going to my shrink and then to the liquor store!!! Thanks guys...appreciate your patience and candor.
 

NoKlu

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Re: Still Worried

Sounds like a good plan Rev but i'd go liquor first, then the shrink:D:D:D
 

wca_tim

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Re: Still Worried

urethan enamal is high molecular weight isocyanate containing product - very little bioavaiolability and the vast majority of the potential lung problem is from aerosolozed droplets... the vast majority (or all) of which are effectively captured by a decent particulate filter.

You can safely spray imron, awlgrip, por15 (contain large amounts of hdi a low molecular weight volitile bioavailable isocyanate, much more dangereous) using a 3m combination hepa particulate and organic vapor cartridge as long as you're not doing it in a closed garadge with no fans. It is not something the companies will ever condone, because the cartridges will onlyu be 100% effective for a few paint jobs and should be discarded before there is a chance they will let isocyanate past. Most workers would get by until they could smell it... which is something like 100 times the concentration where it starts to have a bad effect.

note that for any of these paints, the cancer risk is low for small numbers of mild doses - probably less risky then filling up your car at the pump was even a few years ago. There are also potential effects of various types from the solvents, etc...

The short term effets would be lung damage from reactive components which among other things could cause pulminary edima (my spelling sucks) and even death. if it ain't heppenned yet, you're safe on that one. Aaside from the high risk of delayed and permanent impotence, you should be fine...

Hope this is helpful

ps. if you want to get a sense for the degree of caution with which msds sheets are written, look up one for water...

and...

pss... you know I was kidding about the impotence thing, right?
 

redfury

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Re: Still Worried

Knock on wood, but I've been slapping oil based polyurethane on hardwood floors for years. I'm not a big fan of respirators, but I wear one on most of my big jobs. Granted, I am putting it down as a liquid, not a vapor, but I've coated literally millions of square feet of hardwood floors with no ill effect, save the occasional poly induced headache or burning eyes from a home saturated in fumes through the next day when I show back up and still get the job done ( far and few between, and those jobs SUCK ).
 
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