system check tach pegged

daphal144

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I just purchased a 1996 boat with a 96 evinrude 115 intruder, the tach is not working, it stays pegged at 7k no matter if the key is on or not, also none of the system check lights work when the engine is cranked nor does the horn sound. How can I tell if the tach is bad?? or the problem is the rectifier?? both are expensive so I would like to be able to troubleshoot the problem..

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Rick
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

On the back of most tachs there is a wire that has three different plugs it can plug into one for 4cyl, 6cyl, and 8cyl, if it falls off it will peg out. I would start there and if that doesn't help maybe someone else could help.
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

Not sure about the 4, 6 and 8 cylinder... I pulled the tach out of the console and the wiring harness is seated properly, I also went as far to check for 12V and a good ground which I have. There are two other wires, one purple and one black that plug into the top of the tach I assume they are for the light.
 

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Does it have a plastic cover on the back that comes off with a couple screws? I have found the wire under that, other than that see if you can get ahold of the company that made it to see what each wire does on the purple and black ones.
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

No, it is just the stock OMC tach all one unit, has an 8 pin connector on the back and a turn screw for adjusting and two terminals on top. I have tried adjusting the turn screw nothing happened, it has a setting for 5 and 6. Someone told me that I could take the gray wire( tach wire) at the harness at the engine cut it and attach it to the yellow/gray wire comming from the rectifier and test the tach ( if it works the problem is in the rectifier). I don't know if that is correct or not so I did not want to cut wires if that was not the case...
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

I wouldn't go cutting wires just to see if it works. Hopefully someone else will chime in that knows more than me but have you tried getting a hold of the manufacturer to see if they can help?

I am doing some research as we speak and I will let you know what I come up with.
 

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This is what I have come up with searching online, let me know if this helps, yours could be just not having the purple one hooked up as the power. Start with testing the power and ground wires and we can go from there.

Pin 1 Purple wire goes to - 12V Key Switch On
Pin 2 Black wire goes to - Ground
Pin 3 Gray wire goes to - Tach pulse
Pin 4, (tan w/yellow stripe) turns on No Oil light (wire from VRO Pump)
Pin 5, (tan w/black stripe) turns on Low Oil light (wire from VRO Oil Tank)
Pin 6, (tan w/no stripe) turns on Hot light (wire from Overheat Sensor in head)
Pin 7, (tan w/orange stripe) turns on Check Engine light (wire from In-Line Fuel Sensor)
Pin 8, (tan w/blue stripe) used to activate the Warning Horn. It supplies a ground to the horn circuit when any other warning circuit (pins 4 thru 7) are grounded.

The purple black and grey wires are the important ones that will run the tach you do not need the others hooked up for it to work although they are in one plug it will make it hard to test unless you pull them off the motor side one at a time.
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

Here is a diagram I found

System_Check_Wiring_Harness.jpg
 

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Here is some more info I found. Sorry for the long post but I think some good info.

Operation
Electronic tachometers work by counting pulses generated by the ignition system, alternator, tach signal
generator, or magnetic pickup sender. The tach is hooked up to +12VDC, Ground, and one of the signal sources
listed above. By selecting the right tach and setting the switch on the back to the correct position, you let the
tachometer know how many pulses are sent per each engine revolution. From this information, the tach displays
the correct engine speed. See Appendix I for tachometer dimensions. Instrument part numbers are located on a
label attached to the outside of the case (i.e. TC0000A).
Application
4 cycle engines: The tach signal terminal is connected to the negative terminal on the ignition coil or to a
transistorized tach driver circuit connected to the ignition system. This circuit will have a wire (usually gray) for
connection to the tach. The correct tachometer will have a white label on the side indicating which switch
position is for each engine type. This label will include 4, 6, and 8 cylinder engines for positions 1, 2, and 3.
2 cycle engines: The tach signal terminal is usually connected to the unrectified AC output of the
alternator/lighting coil. Sometimes it is hooked directly to the stator output wire (usually yellow) other times a
gray tach output lead is provided. The correct tach for this application will have a white label on the side with
switch positions for 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, or 20 pole alternators. The number of poles on the alternator can be
determined by checking the Fari a? Outboard Tachometer Application table. (See Appendix II)
Diesel engines: The tachometer signal terminal is hooked up to 1 of 3 things: a) the alternator, b) a tach
signal generator that is spun by the mechanical take-off, or c) a magnetic pickup sensor which counts gear teeth.
a) The alternator tach, which is also called a variable ratio tach, is hooked up to the AC output terminal on
the alternator. This terminal can be marked in a variety of different ways: AC, AUX., S, R, TACH, or
nothing at all. Once installed, the tach is then calibrated to that specific engine by using a shop tach or a
known ?no load? governor speed. The white label on this tach gives the formula: [Crankshaft pulley
dia./alternator pulley dia. x No. of Alt. Poles = N]. ?N? is used to determine the correct switch setting.
Another adjustment on the back allows for fine tuning.
b) The Switching Diesel Tach is hooked up to a tach signal generator which is spun by the engines?
mechanical take-off. One of the signal generator?s wires is grounded to the engine and the other is connected
to the tach?s signal terminal. The white label on this tach is marked: W:1, 1:1, 1.5:1, 2:1, which
corresponds to the different mechanical take-off ratios.
c) The Mag Pickup Tach hooks up to a magnetic pickup sensor which counts gear teeth. Here neither of the
wires is grounded to the block. They are both routed up to the tachometer as a twisted pair. One hooks to the
signal terminal and the other to the ground terminal on back of the tach. The switch is set to the approximate
number of teeth that the sensor sees on each engine revolution. Another adjustment on the back allows fine
tuning to the exact number of teeth. The label is marked in ranges generally from 80 to 200 gear teeth.
Calibration
Set up a calibrated shop tach or strobe tach to monitor the engine?s true RPM. Start the engine and
(after an appropriate warm-up period and with the shift in neutral) increase it?s speed to the boat?s normal
cruising RPM read on the shop tach. Set the coarse adjustment switch to the proper position described on it?s
label. Remove the stop-plug or paper label corner (at the 8-o?clock position on the rear of the case for most) and
insert a 5/16? Allen wrench into the ?fine adj ustment? trimpot, rotating it CW or CCW as necessary to indicate
the true RPM.
Troubleshooting
Symptom recognition is the first step in effective instrumentation troubleshooting. Tachometers usually
exhibit the following symptoms: a) dead, b) pegged, c) erratic, d) reading high, e) reading low, and f)
sticky. More thorough tests of all tach?s (except magnetic pick-up) can be conducted using the Fari a?
Instrumentation Tester.
Symptom:
A. Dead - This is usually caused by: a) No power applied, b) No signal supplied, or c) Tach damaged by
electrical transients caused by disconnecting the battery with the engine running.
1. Check to see if power is applied to tach by switching the instrument power supply switch on and off. As
power is applied, the pointer should jump slightly. If it does not, check to see that the wires are installed on
the correct terminals and that 12 volts are actually applied to the terminals themselves.
2. If tach indicates that power is applied, check for the presence of a signal on the signal terminal. Measure
the signal between the signal and ground terminals. This should read in excess of 2 volts DC.
3. If power and signal are present, then it is possible that the tach has been damaged by electrical transients.
See the enclosed technical bulletin for details.
B. Pegged - This condition occurs on tach's with internal mechanical pointer stops. It is caused by removing
power from the tach while it is running in excess of mid-scale RPM?s or by the switch on back of the tach being
in between positions. When power is re-applied, the tach pointer attempts to go clockwise to zero but cannot
because the internal stop is in the way.
C. Erratic - This symptom is caused 99% of the time by an intermittent connection between the wire and the ring
or spade connector. Often the wire's insulation is pushed into the crimp area and crimped. The center conductor
casually touches the connector allowing the tach to work most of the time but causing a nightmare for the
technician. Electrical noise also can cause erratic readings.
D. Reading High - This is usually caused by the switch on the back of the tach being in the wrong position. If
the number of cylinders or alternator poles selected by the switch is too low, the tach will read high. If a variable
alternator or mag pick-up tach is being used, then further calibration may be necessary, as this calibration is done
by the end user. Excessive electrical noise may also cause the tach to read high. These noise
spikes are counted by the tach as engine RPMs. The wire affected by the noise can be identified by connecting
one wire at a time to the tachometer directly from the battery or the signal source on the engine.
E. Reading Low - If the number of cylinders or alternator poles selected by the switch is too high, then the tach
will read low. If a variable ratio or mag pick-up tachometer is being used, further calibration by the end user may
be necessary.
F. Sticky - If the tach appears to stick during operation, slightly loosen nuts holding backclamp and check
operation. If tach now operates properly and is not loose in panel, tach now should provide suitable service. If
tach continues to stick during operation -- replace tach.
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

Don't worry about the long reply this is great info... I have already checked for 12v and I have it at the tach, I tried to check for a pulse to the tach but it is hard to do since the voltage varies constantly. But this wiring diagram will be very helpful in determining why the warning horn is not working or the system check lights do not light. Thanks for the great reply the troubleshooting continues,,,, I will check tonight to see if there is an access hole in the tach where I can adjust the needle off the pegged position.
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

Now that I read the post about tach may be damaged by disconnecting the battery while the engine is running, might be my problem. I found the gray wire that connects to the positive post of the battery was barely hanging on by only a couple strands of wire. I replaced the connector on Sunday and attached it back to the positive terminal. So,,, if that wire lost connection during engine operation it could have very well blown my tach..
 

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It is possible but before ordering a new one make sure you diagnose it 100% maybe get a hold of a local shop, if they have a spare one laying around maybe you can plug it in and see. Most smaller shops will help you out. You could also run jumpers for the three wires it needs to work and bypass the harness all together and see if it works that way.
 

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Re: system check tach pegged

OK, thanks for the help it was great,,,, sounds like I have some checkin to do and I maight have located a tach for testing.
 
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