Tach not working on 1996 75hp Force

donnjax

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Tach will "zero" when key turned on but fails to register RPMs. Boat has new stator, regulator and TACH. I get 20 vac across the two yellow stator wires and have verified grey SEND from motor to TACH. Have tried to jumper TACH directly from BATT for GND and IGN and connect jumper from stator yellow to SEND without any reading on the TACH. Does anyone know what else I can try? Thanks
 

tommarvin

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IDK, but this forum does.
Did you put the new stator,regulator, and tach in the boat?
Are you sure the gray send wire from the motor to tack is working ok,if not pull another wire, what does the gray send wire connect to on the motor?
All connections are clean and tight, you have never seen the tack move off zero with all your testing.
 

Jiggz

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Try switching the two yellow wires going into the rect/reg and see if that will make a difference.
 

jerryjerry05

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On the back of the tach??
​Is there a tiny black arrow pointing to the amount of cyl?
Sometimes they aren't set right and need to be moved.
 

jerryjerry05

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On the back of the tach.
​Is there a small black arrow.
Is it set to the right #
 

donnjax

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Thanks for the suggestions. That's what makes this so tricky? I've tried them all already. Stator was installed by pretty reliable marine service I use. Have tried both yellows and straight wired TACH with no luck! Was hoping someone had seen this before. My understanding of the circuit is the regulator is taking half that 20vac pulse and sending it to the TACH. Pretty simple. Since the result is the same with 3 different regulators, I guess the "new" TACH must be the problem. Again, thanks for the input. Was hoping I had overlooked something.
 

donnjax

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PS - jerryjerry05 - I did check the cal/pulse arrow. No luck. Even if it was wrong, would think the TACH would respond in some way. This is a Teleflex with 4, 6, 8 settings. My understanding is a 3 cyl motor should be set at 6.
 

Jiggz

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It could be the tach is faulty. However, the fact that it zero'ed when turned on indicates it is not initially faulty. Please do the following for accurate troubleshooting.
1. Obviously there is 12VDC to the tach as it goes to zero when turned on. Ensure range selector is at 6P or 6
2. With engine running idle, measure voltage from the SENDER terminal to ground. There should be at least 5~7 VAC. If there is and the tach needle is still not moving, the tach is faulty or you have the wrong type of tach for your motor.
3. If there is no 5~7 VAC between SENDER and Ground, check voltage at the engine terminal compartment. Check voltage between grey signal wire to ground, if you do not have voltage still it indicates the regulator is not either properly grounded or the grey wire is not connected properly internally (regulator broke likely).
4. If no voltage between grey signal wire and ground, check voltage on each of the yellow wire to ground. In short, you should at least get 5~7 vac either on one of the yellow wires to ground or the grey signal wire to ground. And the same should be present at the tach SENDER and GROUND TERMINALS.

Note, if you do not get 5~7 vac on the grey signal wire to ground but do get it between one of the yellow wires to ground, then connect your tach signal wire to one of the yellow wires. Again there should be 5~7 vac on the tach's SENDER and ground.
 
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donnjax

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Thank you, Jiggz! That could be the additional info I need to verify the TACH. Will post results when done.
 

donnjax

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JerryJerry05 - replacement tach is a teleflex Amega 6k and appears identical to the original (which pegged itself at 2K and won't zero) with 12vdc. I walked through the tests you gave me. Results varied and output voltage from stator was erratic, up and down from 8 to 3vac. Best reads came when I GRN'd to BATT terminal. Guess I have to ring out all the ground wires! However, at no time, whether going from GRN'd direct to BATTERY or GND post on TACH did I get any needle movement. I'm beginning to suspect wrong stator is possible. Shop invoice shows a CDI 18-7878 installed but I can't find info on it. They used two stators on the 75hp (96-97) motors and the info I have shows CDI 174-2075K2 Merc RED 16AMP as the equivalent for a original 9873A28 (which was BLACK). I'm confused so can see how everyone else could be. Anyway, heavy thunder storms are halting all testing for now. Need to find out about the STATOR!
 
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