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KANSAS CITY, Missouri (CNN) -- A Kansas woman charged with killing a pregnant woman and cutting the unborn child from her womb is scheduled to appear before a federal judge Monday, but authorities have not yet decided where her case will be heard.<br /><br />U.S. Magistrate Judge Sarah Hays is scheduled to hold a hearing Monday morning to decide which court will get the case against Lisa Montgomery, said Don Ledford, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Kansas City. Montgomery, 36, of Melvern, Kansas, will make an initial appearance afterward to hear the charges against her.<br /><br />Montgomery is accused of strangling 23-year-old Bobbie Joe Stinnett at Stinnett's home in Skidmore, Missouri, and cutting the 8-month-old fetus out of her womb. Montgomery was being held in the Wyandotte County jail in Kansas City, Kansas, late Sunday, and faces a federal charge of kidnapping resulting in death.<br /><br />The charge carries possible sentences of life in prison or death if she is convicted. But Todd Graves, U.S. attorney for the western district of Missouri, said his office had not decided whether to seek the death penalty.<br /><br />"It's way too early to make that determination," he said.<br /><br />The baby, named Victoria Jo, was recovered, and her father joined her at a Topeka, Kansas, hospital after Montgomery was arrested Friday night.<br /><br />Melvern residents said Saturday that Montgomery and her husband showed the infant to people in their Kansas town. The Rev. Mike Wheatly, a local pastor, said he and others -- including Montgomery's husband, Kevin -- believed Lisa Montgomery was pregnant and due in December.<br /><br />Kevin Montgomery has not been charged in connection with the case.<br /><br />The Montgomerys said they had named the baby Abigail, Wheatley said. He said Montgomery told him she had given birth to the child at a Topeka birthing center.<br /><br />"We felt betrayed. We were angry," Wheatley said. "But most of all, we're very, very, very sad."<br /><br />Stinnett's mother found her daughter dead in a pool of blood in her home Thursday afternoon and called 911, saying it looked "as though her daughter's stomach had exploded," according to an FBI affidavit filed in support of the charges. Crime scene investigators later determined her womb had been cut laterally, the baby removed and the umbilical cord cut, the affidavit states.<br /><br />The crime shocked Skidmore, a town of about 300 people, with some residents shuttering their doors, saying they no longer felt safe.<br /><br />"It's very hard for me to accept this," Nodaway County Sheriff Ben Espey told reporters. "Nobody here could ever perceive this taking place -- to have a fetus taken out of someone's womb and then doing an Amber Alert to try to find a child."<br /><br />Once in custody, the affidavit alleges, Montgomery "confessed to having strangled Stinnett and removing the fetus. Lisa Montgomery further admitted the baby she had was Stinnett's baby and that she had lied to her husband about giving birth to a child."<br /><br />Espey and Graves said Montgomery had a miscarriage at some point this year, although they would not say how recently it occurred. Espey said the pregnancy was six months along when the miscarriage occurred.
 

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Yes NY, it really happened.<br /><br />SICK!!!!!
 

fixin

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Yep,all over the news here<br />very,very sad.
 

sangerwaker

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Makes me feel all the more sane. There sure are some whack jobs out there.
 

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There are too many of these sickos out there.<br /><br />You cant get much sadder than that story.<br /><br />Ken
 

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Yep, that really did happen here! To kill someone, then cut out their baby.... This is not the first time this has happened here neither. Pretty sad story....
 

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The good people of Missouri will be paying this lunatic's keep for years to come. Of course she will have some SAD story to blame it on. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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Glad to say I live on the FAR other side of this state.
 

gspig

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Your Honor, my client was suffering from depression from the loss of her own baby.
 

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NY, I have been following this for several days, after I head about it...there is somethign so vompletely deeply sadistic and sick there...how completely terrible and awful...and to think that it could have been ANYONE's wife and baby it happened to...this couple had only been married about a year, and it was their first child...what a tragedy and disaster...now this young Widower has to live with it all his days, and the baby will never know it's true mother...<br /><br />Without turning this thread into a "Religious" chat, I just want to say this...look at how awful things are now, while we have the Spirit of God available to any who want it, and the Bible says that there will come a time when He will pull His Spirit out of the world...what in blazes will it be like then, when there is no stopper in place for anyone, and tehy are not withheld at all from their sick devices????
 

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Originally posted by gspig:<br /> Your Honor, my client was suffering from depression from the loss of her own baby.
THE JURY FIND THE DEFENDANT GUILTY AS SH*T, AND SENTENCES YOU TO 3 DEATH PENALTIES BIT*H
 

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Yep, gspig and NY, I can see the headlines now, just as you say!!! Post Partem Disorder...no way could it be mental illness!!! Old Flip Wilson would say "The Devil made me do it!!!" But that is too much against the current PC environment now...noone would believe it!!
 

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Originally posted by spratt:<br /> Yep, gspig and NY, I can see the headlines now, just as you say!!! Post Partem Disorder...no way could it be mental illness!!! Old Flip Wilson would say "The Devil made me do it!!!" But that is too much against the current PC environment now...noone would believe it!!
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<br /> Frankly the Judge should have a prefilled needle next to his gavel, and as soon as the verdict is read, ram it home, no alcohol , no last wishes or words. Pooooof. You are outta here BI*CH.
 

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Remember once I wrote about what I had read about the coroner having teh ability to pronounce judgement at the scene of the crime? It would work in such way that after investigating the crime scene, and determining the mode and method of death, the coroner would then determine the sentence of the perpetrator if they were found guilty.<br /><br />Once the determination of guilt was determined in court, the sentence would then be read and the coroners sentence would be immediately carried out, no appeals etc...<br /><br />I wonder what the coroner would have had to say about this one? Violent death, post death surgery to remove fetus, missing fetus...hmmm...
 

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Originally posted by NYMINUTE:<br />
Originally posted by spratt:<br /> Yep, gspig and NY, I can see the headlines now, just as you say!!! Post Partem Disorder...no way could it be mental illness!!! Old Flip Wilson would say "The Devil made me do it!!!" But that is too much against the current PC environment now...noone would believe it!!
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<br /> Frankly the Judge should have a prefilled needle next to his gavel, and as soon as the verdict is read, ram it home, no alcohol , no last wishes or words. Pooooof. You are outta here BI*CH.
How true this is... You know she will blame it on the way she was raised, society, she went crazy, my parents were drugs users, and any other bulls*it excuse her or, her lawyer can come up with!!!!!<br /><br />(POOF)or (BANG) is the only answer to this one!
 

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Originally posted by spratt:<br /> Without turning this thread into a "Religious" chat, I just want to say this...look at how awful things are now, while we have the Spirit of God available to any who want it, and the Bible says that there will come a time when He will pull His Spirit out of the world...what in blazes will it be like then, when there is no stopper in place for anyone, and tehy are not withheld at all from their sick devices????
I think it is already happening, spratt. Just a little bit at a time, though!
 

fixin

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Hopefully she gets what she deserves in prison.<br />I wouldn't think she would be very popular.
 

Nos4r2

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Personally I think anyone like that should be executed simply for the safety of others, and stuff the idea of punishing them.Ditto for paedophiles,rapists and so on.<br />What does it matter what happens to her as long as <br />a)She can't do it again.<br />b)No-one's paying for her keep.<br />You do something like that then I believe that you no longer have human rights.
 

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Talk about sending shivers down one's spine.<br /><br />Sean<br /><br /><br />
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This booking photo released Monday, Dec. 20, 2004, by the Wyandotte County Sheriff's Department shows Lisa Montgomery. Montgomery of Melvern, Kan., was set to make an initial appearance Monday in Federal Court in Kansas City. Authorities said Montgomery, 36, confessed to strangling Bobbie Jo Stinnett of Skidmore, Mo., Thursday, and allegedly cutting out her fetus and allegedly taking the baby back to Kansas. The 4-day-old girl is in remarkably good'' condition Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. (AP Photo/Wyandotte County Sheriff's Department)
 

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What a nut case! :mad: <br /><br />From the morning news:<br /><br /> <br />Posted:12/20/2004 11:02:13 PM <br />Modified:12/20/2004 11:02:13 PM <br />Montgomery's Ex-Husband Speaks <br />Melvern, KS -- He doesn't want people to know his name, but in his wallet an Oklahoma man carries pictures of the children he and Lisa Montgomery share. The children are ages 17, 16, 15 and 14. The father says Montgomery had the oldest two daughters living with her in Melvern. After 14-years of marriage he says they got divorced in 1999 when he couldn't take Montgomery's lies anymore. "She's a real manipulator," he said. "She can convince you of anything." Montgomery's ex-husband says the 36-year old had her tubes tied in August of 1990 in San Diego. But even after the procedure he says Montgomery on two separate occasions told friends she was pregnant. "She's faked them with me several times and recently in the past," he said. This father said he believed Montgomery would make up being pregnant to get attention and this time he thinks it went too far. He says Montgomery told Melvern residents this time the baby was due on December 12th. And this time he says she had a deadline. "I believe it drove her do that," he said referring to murder. "She didn't want to be proven wrong in this situation," the ex-husband said. Breaking down as he talked, the father says he now feels for the Stinnett family. "I keep running it through my mind," he said. Montgomery's ex-husband wants to bring his last two daughters home to Oklahoma. "My kids come first," he said. <br /><br />Jennifer Parks, Fox 4 News<br />jparks@wdaftv4.com
 
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