The BBC program, "Undercover Mosque"

treedancer

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Check this out, warning this video is 48 minutes long, and it is about the Saudi Wahhabist teachings .To me it shows that our real enemy is not Iraq, but the rogue element in Saudi Arabia called Wahabis. Get yourself a sandwich, and a drink, of you’re choice this is going to take 48 minutes.

The BBC program, Dispatches filmed most of "Undercover Mosque" with a hidden camera. The imans, including an (African-American convert), are explicit in their revolutionary plans for Britain and the world.

This could as easily have take place in the United States, and it most likely is taking place here. This tells me that we have to get our dependence on imported oil under control;

the imans in Saudis Arabia are funding this with our own money we spend on there oil. The "Whabis" are in the minority in the Muslim world, but much like Hitler they are spreading there hatred, their much better funded.

At times I’ve been told by preachers that i,m going to hell if I don’t change my ways , these birds take it to a whole new level.

The majority of Muslims I believe are Sunni; the other sect is Shia. I read somewhere, I don’t remember where, but seems that the Muslims have a book called Hadiths (it means saying of the Prophet). I guess it’s like the book the Chinese carried, the writings s of chairman Mao?

One of the Hadiths read that the prophet predicted the greatest threat too Islam would come from within, from the area where Wahhabidm started. That would be from Saudi Arabia wouldn’t it? They proclaim that they are our ally, they are all Sunnni, HHmm, Majority of Iranians are what Shia, and majority of Iraq are Shia .I wonder if there is any Wahabis, Shia? Anybody know?Icould be wrong but i don't think so.

To me it would seem that if prejudice were to increase toward all Muslims, it would only give the wahhabist more strength, as they are preaching the west hates all Muslims. So Muslims must fight for there survival. According to the research that I have done in the Qur,an, the only reasons that Muslims should be fighting is for survival. Give that some thought.


http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=2668560761490749816&q=uk+mosque
 

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Hey Tree, Saw that one earlier:%, Thanks for the linc. Why do some of you guys think things are so simple with the religion o' peace? Fact is: some of the Saudis are frendly to us, some are not. Many Libs on this forum argue that if we only put all our resources into Afganistan or into chasing OBL we would all be safe and the world would love us. Wrong, and illogical. If 10 minutes after the four jets did their dirty deeds on 9/11 we pushed a button and OBL and every living sole in Afganistan went to Allah we would still have major problems with some of the believers of the religion o' peace, (over 1 billion followers). Most of the world either hates or fears us, (and they have since the end of WW2): fine, (don't think that will change as long as we are the 800 lb gorilla on this planet), as no good deed goes unpunished in this world. Democrats and Libs just like to put our military or our treasure at risk over matters that don't have a significant American interest, (the Balkins comes to mind). Seems illogical to me and many conservatives I know but: that is America. Bottom line: the religion o' peace has a lot of people, most of 'em very young. Most followers seem to tolerate or help stoking the hatred of non Muslims and non Muslim cultures and customs. Is it envy over 500 years of stagnation under the iron hand of Islam, where Western culture has soared ahead? Who knows? If the Libs and Dems prevail in their attemps to force failure of ALL OF OUR Mission in Iraq, the stakes will be far greater next time. In my not so humble opinion. JR
 

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treedancer said:
Check this out, warning this video is 48 minutes long, and it is about the Saudi Wahhabist teachings .To me it shows that our real enemy is not Iraq, but the rogue element in Saudi Arabia called Wahabis.

You are correct that our enemy is muslim. He resides just about everywhere everyone else does. So to say that Iran is the enemy is EXACTLY like them saying America is their enemy because of Chirstians.
So what is you plan?
 

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Quote 12 footer

So what is you plan?


What would I do? First thing I would do if I were President is Bug every Muslim Mosque in the United States. Of course that is against the law, but I’m the Pres. and I can Pardon anybody that is caught.

The people that are doing the bugging would have to be better than the goons that Nixon hired. Plus im sure that the technology has improved over what they had in the Watergate job. If a Brit. reporter can get pictures like the video we just seen, im sure that we could also have video.

For sure the Saudi Arabia Embassy would also be a prime target, plus everybody that went into it. I guess your thinking that I must have went out of my mind after all that, no I just think that we don’t have to pass laws to do what we have to do.

We would let the people that do the dirty work know what they are doing is illegal, and let them know that they might have to do a little time in club Med, before the pardon. Plus they would be well compensated; there family would be take care of. Of course the wife/girl friends could visit any time.
 

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Sounds like a good plan, Treedancer.
Altthough Nixon was impeached by doing that.
But any president worth his salt wouldn't concern himself with the consequenses of "getting busted", if he thought his actions would bring about true results.

And no doubt, your plan would do just that. It has been tried tho, in a small way... I think that is what they had in mind with that "patriot act" they caught so much hell about. Alas -- opposition at every turn. It had great potential of zapping stateside cells quickly. I keep hoping there is no mosque in America without at least one American spy amoung the "congregation"..... But i doubt that too, given the silly political risks involved, even tho there are American soldiers ready and willing to do the work.


 

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12 footer

I think that is what they had in mind with that "patriot act" they caught so much hell about. Alas -- opposition at every turn. It had great potential of zapping stateside cells quickly.


Ahh but there’s the rub; they tried to make it into the law of the land, trying to usurp the constitution on several fronts. Nixon, if he had tried to do that to the USSR Embassy during the cold war, and got caught would he have faced impeachment? Don’t think so.

He was using the power of the Presidency for …????Political purposes. That is the downside of the Patriot act, its Potential for future abuse. You ask what I would do, i,m not running for election, nor did I have any political party depending on how handled myself while I was President, just geterdone Don, my motto.8)
 
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