Third Log

mpdive12

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OK I know the subject of adding a third toon has been discussed in depth on these forums. My question is this......Why couldn't you install, say a 4 foot center toon at the front of your boat to gain more stability? My problem with my 2013 Suntracker 22 Barge is the occasional torpedoing that is so inherent with pontoons. I am amazed that someone has not invented an oversized rubber fender that secures between the two pontoons to help keep the front end up in a wake situation. I know they sell the center logs in full length and I would do this if I knew this wouldn't interfere with performance of the prop. I'm not an engineer but I was just curious what others thoughts are on adding just a 4 foot pontoon at the front of the boat?
 

HotTommy

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What follows is informed opinion, but not indisputable fact.

Consider the following thought experiment. You have a large, two-log pontoon boat with just a flat deck and no furniture, engine or anything but you. You are standing at the center of the boat that weighs 1,000 pounds plus your 200 pounds. As the weight is balanced fore and aft, the logs have sunk evenly into the water just enough to displace a volume of water that weighs 1,200 pounds. You then walk to the very front of the deck and stop. The bow of the boat lowers and the stern rises, but the volume of water displaced by the now tilted logs still weighs 1,200 pounds. You walk back to the center of the boat and it levels out again.

You now cause a four foot long, 200 pound log to appear in the center of the boat at the bow. The three logs must displace an additional 200 pounds of water to keep the boat afloat. All three logs will sink slightly deeper but because the added weight is forward of the center of the boat, the bow will sink more than the stern. Adding the additional short log at the front actually caused the bow to sit slightly lower than before.

Had you caused a full length log to appear in the center of the boat, it too would have required more water to be displaced, but because of its length, it would likely have allowed all three logs to ride slightly higher in the water than with only two.

One more thing to consider - when the bow of the boat encounters a fast moving wave, the force of buoyancy pushing upward begins to increase as soon as the front of the log begins to sink deeper into the water. But, the boat will not react instantly because of its mass. Newton’s Law says the boat’s acceleration upward will be in proportion to the magnitude of the upward force divided by the mass of the boat. Plowing happens because the wave overruns the boat faster than buoyancy can lift it. I suspect adding a four foot log at the front wouldn’t change much.
 

HotTommy

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One more thought - I suppose you could cause the front to rise higher with the 4' log up front IF you mounted it considerably lower than the other two. If you mounted it low enough to displace more water than it weighed even before the other two logs touched the water, it would lift the front of the boat. BUT, it would produce a huge amount of additional drag when underway ...... and trailer problems.
 

mpdive12

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Thank you for taking the time to reply. Sounds like you know what you’re talking about so I will discard my million dollar idea. We have been looking real hard at a tritoon. Sounds like that’s the way to go. Thank you so much for the reply and for the 200 pound comment. That was a long time ago! 😂😂
 

lmuss53

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I added a 14 foot long section of 23 inch tube to my 20 foot boat, directly in front of the factory transom pan. It helped with ride height and stance tremendously. I never nose dive anymore regardless of the load. The only regret I have is not going full length with a new transom. I tried bumping the HP up and I do get issues with the tag along tube interfereing with water flowing past the stock transom pan at about 30 mph. With the original 50 hp at 20 mph the added section of tube has made the boat only better. I made zero changes to the bunk triler, the new section just hangs there and goes along for the ride. I'm kind of curious as to where you got 200 pounds fot a 4 foot section of tube, The 14 foot piece I put in was from a Fisher boat and weighs 60 pounds.

I say go for it you have the know how, but go with a full length tube with transom if you want to boost HP.
 

lmuss53

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For many years Tracker offered a 5 or 6 foot section of tube in the center and at the bow of pontoons, it was very effective at adding bow lift both at the dock and while underway. There is one at our campground, it's where I got the idea for mine.
 

Toyelectroman

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Sure you can. i have a smaller middle toon on my pontoon that was built that way from the factory. It does help keep the nose further up on the water
 

captmello

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I'd go for it for the same reasons. I added a 3rd tube to mine, and have no regrets. I had to buy a different trailer...but my new bunk trailer is great also.
 
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