TILT & TRIM Evinrude 115

itsdougief

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TILT & TRIM Evinrude 115

I'm having a intermittent problem with my trim and tilt on my 81 model evinrude 115. Seems something is blocking the pump. The system works fine when I raise it. The problem is when I try to lower it. The pump motor runs but the engine won't drop down. Happened once last year but soon resolved itself (gotta love it when things fix themselves). I assumed the vibration of the engine broke it loose somehow. Thanks to anyone who has a fix!!<br /><br />Doug
 

JB

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Hi, Doug.<br /><br />Your T&T is acting like it is low on fluid.<br /><br />Moving this to Outboard Questions.<br /><br />Good luck. :)
 

profish

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Raise the motor all the way up and remove the round screw on the tilt pump fill to top and replace the screw. operate motor up & down and down several times to remove air in the system then refill.
 

Joe Reeves

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Itsdougief.... The following may not be your problem, but it may be of interest to you.<br /><br />(PTT Hydraulic Lockup)<br /><br />If the engine has been trailered without having both of the trim rams pulled in, or trailered without even having the engine being supported by the trailering support, it is possible for the PTT to encounter a hydraulic lock up. The slight up and down motion, when trailering allows over 1700 psi of oil pressure to build up on the wrong side of the oil pump. Since the oil pump cannot exceed that 1700 psi, the unit is effectively hydraulically locked into position (the elec motor runs and does nothing).<br /><br />The proper method for trailering is to have the engine in a full tilt position and resting on the trailering support bracket, then have both trim rams pulled in to a point where the engine makes a jerking motion. At this point, immediately take your finger off of the PTT trim switch. Now, quickly and sharply, tap the PTT up button. This removes the vast majority of down hydraulic pressure but at the same time, the engine is solidly locked into position and cannot rock up and down.<br /><br />(The Cure)<br />Have the engine in the up position and supported so that it cannot fall. Look straight at the PTT assy.... you will see what looks like a large slotted screw, but which is in fact a check valve. Remove that valve and what you find inside which is a shuttle valve, and a spring on each end of that shuttle valve.<br /><br />After you've removed those items, look straight inside of that chamber. You'll be looking at the reverse side of another check valve. Look at the hole in the backside of the valve you removed. You will need a punch that will fit inside of that hole.<br /><br />Now, place the punch inside of the hole in that check valve that is still in the unit, and tap it rather sharply with a hammer. It will take quite a rap but the idea is to unseat the valve to release the hydraulic pressure. Watch your eyes as when you do release the pressure, it will have a tendency to spray out somewhat.<br /><br />After releasing the pressure, reassemble the shuttle valve, springs, and outer check valve. Fill the oil reservoir with PTT fluid, having the engine in the extreme full tilt position. That's it.
 
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Joe,<br /><br />Very interesting.<br /><br />How does trailering (transom saver) brackets fall into this?<br /><br />In the past, I have run the tilt/trim down to the point where the foot touches the transom saver. I then run the trim rams in just slightly from there.<br /><br />I've never had the described problem, however I'd like to avoid it.
 

itsdougief

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Joe,<br /><br />Your solution fixed me right up. Thanks a bunch.<br /><br />Until the next problem,<br /><br />Doug
 

Joe Reeves

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DJohns..... Even though the engine has been raised, the trailering tilt lever lowered, and the engine then brought down to rest on it, the following can take place.<br /><br />The trim rams, even if they're drawn half way in are more or less at what one could call a neutral position. In that neutral position, that allows the engine to jump up and down while running down the road.<br /><br />The trailering brackets are simply a limiting area when having the engine in the tilt position. The trailering bracket keeps the engine from moving down, the hydraulic pressure on the trim rams keeps it from moving up.
 

eaganboater1

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i may be having a similar problem, except how can i manually tilt the motor up for an inspection, i dont see any manual release?
 
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