tilt trim installation

FEFIFOFUM

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can someone tell me how to go about, finding and installing an used electric tilt& trim unit, on my force 1988 85 hp motor? There isn't one it. The boat is a bayliner. Are there a electric and a hydrolic system? Seems most everyone recomends a electric but, the ones I see online look electric and hydrolic:confused: thanks ron
 

RRitt

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Re: tilt trim installation

An electric motor drives a hydraulic pump which lifts or lowers the engine. This is the best type.

There is no reliable way to get good trim for cheap. Check Ebay and craigslist. maybe you can find a used one for $150 during off season. It will probably need rebuilding since the system is only designed to last 20 years in first place ($300). But who knows? maybe you'll be the lucky exception.
 

FEFIFOFUM

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Re: tilt trim installation

Thanks for the info. Do these tilt trim units just install without a special adaptor etc? thanks
 

RRitt

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Re: tilt trim installation

the original ones just fit right in. the aftermarket ones come with a hinged plate and you remount engine onto plate.
 
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Re: tilt trim installation

The original tilt unit is the way to go. I found one for my 74 merc from a guy for100 bucks and everything works fine. You may find one that just needs new lines, about 50 bucks a piece. You just gotta look around and when u find one jump on it. They just replace the hydraulic assist cylinders and bolt to your transom. A lot easier than the cmc ones. Good luck
 

wlg

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Re: tilt trim installation

Ebay will be your best bet. I just found a replacement for my 125. If you find one for under $200 that works you need to get it. You should try to find a parts motor for a few hundred. It would be a better deal plus many extra parts.
 

tater76

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Wig is right, under $300 is a steal! if you do a search on google you will be hard pressed to find a functional unit for under $300. I have never let one go, nor bought one for under $250.
 

jerryjerry05

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I bought one for a 40 Force$100 the pump is what i wanted.It was bad anyway.
The tilt piston worked so it was worth the $
The public know knows what they are worth so your gonna have to pay.
Just make sure they give you the ss bracket that fits on the pivot housing.
Try to get one from a state that has fresh water.Salt water is a BUGGER!!!J
 

RRitt

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Re: tilt trim installation

Hi

Found these on ebay- new and not cheap- and maybe not exactly what you need, there again, maybe it is, especially if you buy a used system with a dud pump!

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...nkw=force+tilt+trim&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Those work within limits. The metal is softer than original, the seals are of lower quality, and the tolerances are not as tight. The lifespan of the VB is short to start with and will shorten quickly as the horsepower increases. I would not even consider it for any engine with a 25" shaft or with 120HP or higher because it might not even finish the first season. On a 150HP 25" shaft engine it might not even finish the first day. In my highly biased and opinionated opinion, I would put the spot at 85-90HP. Above that go oem. below that go cheap. At 85HP take your pick. Chinese is cheap and convenient while oem lasts a lot longer. I would guess the cheap valve body should go 3-5 years on a 85HP.

If you look closely you will see that Force valve bodies used two different type of check valves. The early design used retaining clips to hold the check valves in place. The later design used threaded check valves that screwed in with an allen key. When you look at aftermarket valve bodies look for the retaining clip design. The version with allen key is cheaply made and will not hold up on a big engine. The version with retaining clips is more expensive but can handle engines over 60HP.

If you need a cheap fix then search the forum for a thread about using lawnmower carb kits to fix your check valves. Just do the check valves and don't take anything else apart. Even with the corner cutting it will be a higher quality machine with a longer lifespan (than the cheap new ones).
 
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