tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

freedom49

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The trim motor works and lefts up the motor but slowly the motor comes back down ?I did check the oil level was full( some oil spit out)Any body knows
or had the same problem?do I have to remove it or can it be fixed where it is? any repair link on the net?
 

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Re: tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

The trim motor works and lefts up the motor but slowly the motor comes back down ?I did check the oil level was full( some oil spit out)Any body knows
or had the same problem?do I have to remove it or can it be fixed where it is? any repair link on the net?

If fluid is low then the system lifts up to the point where the pump runs dry. It stops lifting and holds. It does not drift down due to low fluid or air bubbles.

On your system the position of drift down is important.
If the system does not drift down when lifted over halfway then the problem is in the spool valve circuit.
If the system does drift down when lifted over halfway then it could be either the ram or the pump.
If the system lifts more slowly as it goes up and eventually slows to zero then it is usually the ram.
If the system lifts smoothly all the way up but then sinks down when you release switch then it is usually the pump.

It does not really matter what is broken. It takes 95% as much effort to fix one portion as to do a full rebuild. If you miss something then your effort becomes nearly double. If you go into a repair like this then go into it with the intention of a complete rebuild. It does not pay to start playing whack-a-mole with trim system problems.

it needs to be removed to do any repairs.

I usually have an ongoing listing on Ebay for mail-in repair service. It may have expired last week and I have not relisted yet. I have not run across anybody else who fixes that system. I think Merc dealers will tell you that you have to buy a new system. It is built by the oildyne division of parker hannafin and sold as an integrated hydraulic action system. I think the trade name is EHA. If you have a local P/A distributor they may be able to point you to a repair shop. Your mechanic may also know a local shop. However, they are unusual devices and if somebody is not familiar with them then it could end up being a lot of labor hours to pay for.

Another valid approach for repair is to watch ebay for the manifold/pump assembly. They are like $700 from mercury. Which is ludicrous to pay more for a part than a whole new system. However, every year or two one with a discontinued part number will pop up on ebay for cheap. IF you replace the whole pump/manifold/spool with a new one then a $20 ram seal kit gives you a new system. The rams are anodized on inside and the only contact is with rubber seals. Since there is no metal-metal contact the rams almost never have any wear.

well - kind of rambled there. that's what I get for typing before cofffee sets in. Hope it answers your questions.
 

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Re: tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

A worn o ring from debri/salt etc will definitely result in metal to metal and scratched cylinder walls.
I just rebuilt my 3 ram system for my V6.Not sure if you have similar system.One of the main/1st checks for leak down is dirty check valve in port trim rod.Let me know what system you have or post a pic.
 

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Re: tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

all bets are off on saltwater systems. On freshwater systems I have only seen two types of ram failures.

The most common is cause by a bad top seal on ram. It allows water to get into the system as the ram moves up and down. Over winter, a bitter cold can freeze the water and cause the ram to split. The split is usually external and you know immediately from the puddle of red ATF fluid that something has gone wrong. The split can also be internal and run the length of the ridge. This causes the system to move a little but once it gets to the split nothing more happens as all the fluid just gets pumped right through the crack.

The less common ram failure is running into something and either bending the shaft or breaking off the mounting eye.

Internal debris is extremely rare. The filler plug strips on 3w motors and cause plastic shards. It messes up the pump really bad but does not damage the ram. But as far as grit, dirt, or other debris there is no way for it to enter the system. If somebody pours sand into reservoir or does not keep things clean when replacing motor then they probably deserve what they get.

Saltwater systems depend upon good maintenance, good flushing, good anode, and being stored out of water. If you notice the paint on your ram starting to discolor near the bottom that is galvanic. Your anodized finish is being electro-stripped. You have to keep the anode and continuity strap in good condition. I am not sure if it is due to bad grounding, magnetically induced loop currents, or just sloppy mechanics but the chinese motors seem to significantly aggravate saltwater corrosion. It's great to save the $100 but don't skimp on the anode when you do.
 

freedom49

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Re: tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

Thanks for your time will do the test to see . thanks
 

freedom49

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Re: tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

sorry but I know the tilt motor,and pump which is the ROD is attached but what is RIM?
 

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Re: tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

Rim?? You mean Trim.Post a pic.Is it 3 ram or single/double ram.(how many rods).
 

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Re: tilt/ trim on my 60 Hp Merc(1992) not holding& slowley comes back down?

I tried to put up a pic but will not upLoad why? no idea if you send me your email will send the pics.Any way it is single rod piston sitting next to the tilt motor hope that helps. Thanks
 
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