Timing on a 5.0GL

ddbyrd3

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So I know that a shunt #885163 is needed to set the factory timing to 10 degrees advanced. My question is, can I run 12 or even 14 degrees of timing?? Would that be possible in order to gain a tad bit more power??
 

Maclin

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At the risk of causing detonation, over heating due to "lean" condition, and valvetrain overheat leading to tulip-ing and more. If you run very light loads in a small-for-the-engine boat you might get away with it for a while. More like a roll of the dice to me unless you like repowering often. Also not much power to be had when compared to the engine damage potential.
 
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ddbyrd3

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I fully understand everything you just stated... I am very familiar with motors in general.. So your opinion is that even a couple / few degrees on a marine application would not be beneficial? For me, I don't understand marine electronics, so I don't know what impact it would have if I run 12 degrees initial..

I know on my VW off road car, 2 degrees makes a rather significant performance change..
 

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Marine engine loading during their duty cycle is different, needs to be considered. It is more like a reverse tractor pull That is why most marine engine tuning leans towards the "rich" and less radical than what one might think for auto type setups, need to watch combustion chamber temps, hot spots and the like. I know there is power to be had with ignition timing and tuning, used to make some chump change on the side with that, but remember in a boat there is only one gear so more RPM helps but little MPH there. If you do prop up some then that loads the engine even more, it is up to you.

Watch the plugs as you venture into the experimental zone. Obviously step up the octane as you move the timing up. You also do not want to get the idle up too high as the initial moves up so adjust throttle, etc. Keep the fuel mix rich, things like that, don't let the timing outpace and leanout the fuel delivery mix.

Also keep in mind most drives do not like to liave at 5k and above for extended periods.
 
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Much like on the VW air cooled, rich mix is critical to maintain in Marine world ;)
 

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Thought of something else...in a 4.3l OMC application, older one, there were two timing settings, one for 87 and one for 91 octane. It was 2 degrees more if using the higher octane. I think there was not quite a 15hp difference just for comparison. In racing that can make a difference maybe.
 

ddbyrd3

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Thank you for all the detail, I am an Engineer so I appreciate that. I think I will leave it at the factory 10 degrees.
 
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