troubleshooting electrical

Snowmann40

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Hi,

I have a 72 thunderbolt 500 and I was wondering if there are any good sites out there for troubleshooting the electrical?
 

sschefer

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

Just guessing here but it doesn't sound like you have a lot of experience working with DC circuits. Just about any basic Electiricty/Electronics book will start off with the basics of DC. That will get you started and then you'll want to get your hands on a copy of the ABYC standards for boat wire colors. Most manufacturers follow it pretty close. Some may deviate when you get to the engine harnesses, they tend to be a mix of automotive and marine specifications so you reallly need to get the Service Manual (not a Seloc or Clymers manual) for that. Merc sticks to it pretty close from what I've seen.

Once you have a decent grasp on the theory you can go get the CDI trouble shooting guide for you motor or just use the Service Manual and you should be able to shoot it down like a pro!

Why I didn't go into to detail for your motor is because I don't work on your motor and although there are several basic steps, everytime I see someone on here try to explain it to a first timer it ends up in a really confused mess. If you have a good idea of what your doing and then ask questions it will be much easier for you and you'll be back up and running a lot faster.
 

Snowmann40

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

mercman2, thanks for the info.

sschefer, I don't know how you can just "guess" my abilities in electrical, I'm not going to go into great details of my expertise either. I'm trying to troubleshoot my outboard so I can go back out on the lake before winter hits. I'm not planning on taking a beginners course in order to get the proper troubleshooting that even a monkey can do if he's provided the right info. How hard can it be to test a stator to see if it still spits out current? Or to see if a rectifier is doing what it's suppose to (convert ac from the stator to dc current so the rest of the engine can function properly?????? I can keep going down the system if you would like, I have a very good understanding of the different electrical components of an outboard among other things. All I need are the testing procedure for ALL of the component so I don't have to come back here and ask more questions and have people doubting my knowledge by reading one of my post. I do have a manual that I bought on the net, and unfortunately the images and troubleshooting chart is less then desirable at best. And makes it hard to diagnose the different components.

If you're referring to my other posts regarding a distributor cap which is in the range of 100$ + for my outboard, then yes trying other means to get by would be appropriate when you're on a budget, which I "guess" isn't a problem for you.
 

mercman2

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

Good luck with your diagnoses. I have found trouble shooting ignition problems to be very fuzzy no matter what kind of experience or literature you have.
 

sschefer

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

mercman2, thanks for the info.

sschefer, I don't know how you can just "guess" my abilities in electrical, I'm not going to go into great details of my expertise either. I'm trying to troubleshoot my outboard so I can go back out on the lake before winter hits. I'm not planning on taking a beginners course in order to get the proper troubleshooting that even a monkey can do if he's provided the right info. How hard can it be to test a stator to see if it still spits out current? Or to see if a rectifier is doing what it's suppose to (convert ac from the stator to dc current so the rest of the engine can function properly?????? I can keep going down the system if you would like, I have a very good understanding of the different electrical components of an outboard among other things. All I need are the testing procedure for ALL of the component so I don't have to come back here and ask more questions and have people doubting my knowledge by reading one of my post. I do have a manual that I bought on the net, and unfortunately the images and troubleshooting chart is less then desirable at best. And makes it hard to diagnose the different components.

If you're referring to my other posts regarding a distributor cap which is in the range of 100$ + for my outboard, then yes trying other means to get by would be appropriate when you're on a budget, which I "guess" isn't a problem for you.


Your on your own then, have fun.
 

Snowmann40

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

congratulations sschefer, you just put another post under your belt.....

by the way, my first post had nothing to do with any electrical issues all I did was ask for a site to help me troubleshooting.

Seems to me like some people on here are just there to criticize people so their posts go up.

I did get a site on the first post, I don't recall asking any other questions on this post begging for an explanation of something in the circuits making me look like a newbie in the field.

I'm on many other forums and this one has got to be the worst one I've been on so far.

I'll show myself to the door now, leaving the ignorant behind.

I'm "guessing" that you can't recognize yourself.....
 

sschefer

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

I bow in front of you for all the knowledge you have. And appreciate your phd in psychology that makes you decipher a persons ability by one single post asking for a site...

Now, instead of trying to get around my question about what made you make that very long comment and going into details of what I should do. Perhaps you should take the time and explain to me why it is that you made that comment....I don't think I'm asking for much do you?

I'm wondering who is enticing crap on my thread.

As far as your knowledge comes into play, you know what you can do with it. A word of wisdom, in the future, kindly keep your comments to yourself on peoples threads. Unless you want to make something constructive out of it.

Cheers

P.S. Don't waste your time with an answer to this message, it won't be read and certainly won't be answered. And keep posting in your "addicted to lures" so you can get more hits and get your "rank" going up. I'm done with this site....;)

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So, tell me honestly, what made you "guess" that I wasn't comfortable in troubleshooting? All I asked was for a site to help me diagnose my problem.

What enticed you to write that crap on my thread?



Seems to me you're more intent on creating conflict then you are with getting your engine problem fixed. Even though I don't work on that particular motor I'd have had it up and running without having to ask questions on this board. Take that for what its worth.

I wish you the best of luck. You've been given the best advice, it's up to you to take it or leave it.

Just thought the rest of Iboats would like to see what type of person your dealing with when you try to help this person out. See you snowmann40, can't say I'm sorry to see you go.
 

Jlawsen

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

Seems to me you're more intent on creating conflict then you are with getting your engine problem fixed. Even though I don't work on that particular motor I'd have had it up and running without having to ask questions on this board. Take that for what its worth.

I wish you the best of luck. You've been given the best advice, it's up to you to take it or leave it.

Sounds like pretty good advice to me.
 

mercman2

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

You guys are harsh. We are all hear for the love of boating. Sheesh.
 

mercman2

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Re: troubleshooting electrical

I will admit this blog has given me some good old country style entertainment.
 
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