trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

[peacekeeper6]

ok, i got all the rot out, now i am trying to pull the good wood. I am trying oops's way. BUT i need some advice from the man. Opps when you pulled ur did you use anything else besides the come along and the bolt? i already went ahead and got all the stuff away from the sides of the transom.

 

[peacekeeper6]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

yea i dont think that is happening, i just tried again and i cant get it to budge, i will have to cut it out like the old times. i am just gonna go ahead and take the cap off, i hope i can preserve the rub rail.

 

[peacekeeper6]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

came out just had to move the hook, now scraping all that excess crap out. uhg, almost there though.

 

[oops!]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

sorry snake ...i was outta town yesterday on a road trip....
got another outa town sale comin up this weekend....but the hotels will have wi fi...and ill take the computer.

try a grinder....ittl get that stuff out quick......kinda

were you able to get it out in one peice?....if so....... keep it so you can use it as a template.....

im also gonna fab a swim grid....the transom is the perfect size for that too!.

post picks so we all can see and future i boaters can learn

cheers.....
oops

 

[peacekeeper6]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

alright, yea it cmae out...kinda, just the top peice. Its not really good for a template, i think i will be batter off measuring and getting it right. Do i need the cap on to throw the transom in? i sure hope not thats a pita. now i have to scrape all this shat out.

 

[oops!]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

nope, cap stays off for a transom,

if only part of it came out. you can try again by screwsing a little further down on the old trans..... slip a chizel between the hull and the transom..(if you can),,,, with each crank on the come a long, put the chizel back down and try to relase the transom from the hull. you should be able to get the chizel a little further down each crank....it should "pop" out

if it doesnt come out ...and your starring at a big ol peice of wood. use tashasdaddy 's method, with the tip of a chain saw. it will rip the wood out faster than a grinder.....but use the grinder when you get close to the hull.

let the fun begin!

cheers
oops

 

[peacekeeper6]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

no no, the transom is out now. The bottom half was mush. top half came out with some prying and a come along. No i am remvoing the left over debree. Almost ready to re poly the new transom in, when i put the new transom in, do i laminate the wood with pieces of cloth or just coat them in poly and screw them together then cloth them into the boat?

 

[Coors]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

laminate with micro balloons, and when clamping, don't squeeze it all out.

 

[oops!]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

one way to do it is. build it in the boat....glass the hull...add wood, add glass, then the second layer of wood and screw it all togeather.

i built mine outta the boat. and put it in.....

use matt in stead of cloth....(for this job)...the matt will "grab" better.

i laminated the two sheets of ply togeather. let it cure then layed matt in the boat....then a layer of matt againt the ply, then cloth.


so when it goes togeather it will be hull, matt,cloth,matt, wood.

then ill glass the whole thing to the hull again,,,,

when you add the resin to the wood. use a cold cure and let the resin sink into the wood for a bit before you add the matt....

also saturate the edges of the wood.

use cabosil to "bed" the transom.

check out the hull extension post...the last bit beals with making and installing the transom.

there is more than one way to skin a cat. either way works....just make sure the transom is sealed against the hull...no voids.

 

[peacekeeper6]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

ok sounds good, now is this chopped mat? or the actuall fiberglass matting that is tightly woven? the fiberglass chop i guess is very weak and can rip, the other stuff is tougher, this is what i use right?

 

[ondarvr]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

The type of fiberglass needs to be cleared up a little, mat is the fuzzy stuff that comes apart easily, cloth is a tightly woven product and is what most people think of when "fiberglass" is discussed, roving is a larger woven product, the fiber bundle is much larger and it's not woven as tight as cloth. What oops! is using is a biax product with a light layer of mat stitched to it, Biax is not woven, all the strands of each layer lay flat, the two or more layers lay at a 45* angle to each other and the stitching keeps it together, this is the strongest form of glass fabric. When oops! refers to the cloth he is using, it's actually Biax.

In many DIY discussions cloth is used almost as a generic term for any type of fiberglass.

 

[oops!]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

the cloth product looks like its is woven togeather.....long strings over and under each other....

the csm..or Chopped Strand Matt. is a bunch of "hair like" peices of glass just squished togeather.......

the csm is used in hull contact spots.....the "short hairs" provide many individual contact points on the hull.....it is also used to "thicken" a layup. or add bulk.

the cloth product...is stronger than csm but it woll provide less contact points....

bolth types are usually used togeather......matt....woven.....matt

that gives you a strong bond between the hull....the cloth gives longitudnal strength and the last layer of matt ...bulk....

you dont need to go too thick of product here.....!...glass doesnt like sharp corners...and the thicker the product...the less it likes it......

remember ...when glassing....completely saturate the glass with resin....no more...no less!

you are just laminating a transom.....you just need somthing to make it stick togeather......one layer of matt will do......

coors suggested to use glass bubbles in stead of glass matt...lots of people do...and it works sucessfully.....just smear it on...and clamp...it works....just dont squeeze all the resin out....

imho.... if you saturate the wood first with resin...then add mat it will be stronger....glass bubbles will add stregnth to the resin..but not as much as the matt... because the matt has longer contact stregnth between the layers of ply.

read ondarvrs comments in the hull extension thread.....
ondarvr has most likely forgotten more about fiberglass than most of us here will ever know.

what ever way you choose to do it. as long as you dont muck it up really bad...it will work....your not working on a 43 foot scarab with triple 500's in it. where every ounce of stregnth will be needed....
however you should make sure that the transom is sealed from water intrusion...or you will be re-doing it in 3 years

cheers
oops

 

[lundnisswa]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

Could you explain the come along method of attempting to pull a transom, and where do find an anchoring spot to hook the come along since ratcheting will be taking place inside of the boat? Interesting stuff.
Scott R.

 

[oops!]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

heh heh heh.....

ondarvr ... I got called for supper...so we were typing at the same time....

i was just refering to regular cloth...didnt want to get in to bi-ax....hurry up back here bud !...we got more places to check out


lund....i used the bow eye hook......what i did.... was place an identical eye hook with nuts screwed on.......to the threads of the bow eye hook...then i moved the nuts down so they were holding bolth hooks togeather.

heres the link
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=232109&highlight=easy+transom+removal+with+picks

 

[peacekeeper6]

Re: trying to get transom out OOPS LOOK

like he said there are two ways to skin a cat, i didnt wanna put any stress on the bow area so i anchored to the house, man that was a sight i wish i had pics of the setup. then i hooked the boat to truck, strapped the back of the boat down. got one of those red hooks from wally world, welded it into a close loop so it wouldnt come apart and then i screwed it into the transom, it only went through the first two layers of wood though, but it ended up taking everything off. then i started craking and prying from the corner. came out in about 5 minutes. now just cleaning the residue up.