Turin: advice on lighting Tunnel houses

Kiwi Phil

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As you know, I built a test tunnel house with 8,500 growing holes to see how it would go with my crop in the winter.
Each table is 900mm wide (.9m)
I am growing 4 tables high.

It has been a sucess and i have been able to produce basil all winter, BUT, I am having a small problem with the lower tables, (only in the centre of the tables), with "lack of light".

The plants in the middle grow at half the rate as those on the outside, and the leaves are curled.
We pick the outside plants, then move those in the centre out into the light....they come away very quickly......so all is reasonably 'good'.

I am now building a bigger tunnel house to hold 50,000 growing holes. I might put up some pictures of it later.

To overcome the light problem, I want some suggestions as to what you guys do.

I have seen photos of your houses with white floors....are they plastic, and are they used to reflect light, or are they to keep the floor clean?

I am putting down a concrete floor.

I use picking ladders (on wheels) and wonder if moving the ladders about will grab and stretch the plastic?

I wondered if I would not be better to paint the floors white, if this would increase my light at lower levels.

My texan friend (here in Aussie) said he built a large car park, and when they put down the painted lines, he sprinkled ground up glass over the paint.....at night the glass in the paint reflected the cars headlights, illuminating the lines.
Do you know if this would help in my situation?

I have seen on TV programs when the cops bust an indoor drug (maryjowana crops) operation, and the growers have silver paper lining all walls and ceiling, which I can only guess is to reflect light....is this the case....or is it heat they are trying to keep in.

If it is light, then when I grew roses, I bought from a Dutch outfit (Zwapak) large rolls of silver wrapping material and used this instead of sleeves for selling my roses in.

I am wondering if this was hung vertically, down the centre of each row, if it would increase the light levels for me.

I can buy the alloy horticultural screen sold, but they are woven (with spacing), suspended horrizontally above the crop, to deflect heat upward and reduce the temp around the crop, in the summer.

What would you advise.
What is your industry doing about light.....you have a lot less of it than us.
I do not want to go to electric lights.

Cheers
Phillip
 

Turin

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Re: Turin: advice on lighting Tunnel houses

we don't use grow lighting our self because the paprikas don't grow in winter anyway.

The white foil in the oldest green house, and "wortel doek" (a woven fabric that can be used for 5 years the foil is for using 1 year and is also the draining system the wortel doek isn't used for draining because the newer green houses have build in draining on the stands for the plants in the older greenhouse the plants are on the floor.) is for keeping the ground clean and for extra light.
there are growers especial people who grow flowers, who use red foil because it should reflect the light in the wave length plants need better than white.
But we thought it look stupid and didn't really believe in it.
So I think if you will use the reflecting paint I think that it will only reflect visual light and not the invisible your plants need.

The aluminium paper you talk about is to screen out heat, I think because it would do more harm when it was used to reflect light you will get sun burn on certain spots and you will screen out light in other places.

the alloy horticultural screen we use is woven to that is to let the humidity true ells it will start leaking and so damaging the leaves.

there are a few growers in Holland that use the screen on the outside so to keep the heat even more out of the green house that requires a very big and heavy installation.
and it cant work during heavy winds.
 

Kiwi Phil

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Re: Turin: advice on lighting Tunnel houses

Good.
I understand that.
That will change my approach.

I'm not going to try and get rid of the heat in the summer.....when you get months of over 30C (sometimes over 40C) it is an impossibility, so I am putting in roll-up plastic sides, with white insect screens underneath, plus top end vents, also with insect screens.
I might have to put an extractor fan in the top which i will use when we are picking, as it climbs to over 50C sometimes.
We will start picking at 5.30am when it is only 25C.

I think I will make my tables wider, and instead of having 4 high, go for 3, giving me 1+m between them. My building is only 2.4m at the wall, and 4.5m at top of hoops. Wanted to go higher at the walls, but I have to consider my neighbours.

Thanks Turin.
If you have any other suggestions that might help me, please say so.
Cheers
Phillip
 

Turin

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Re: Turin: advice on lighting Tunnel houses

Isn't it possible to make your bottom tables slide able so they will be in the working paths when you are not there some flower growers here in Holland move the plants trough the whole green house so 50 cm ore so shouldn't be a problem.
 

Kiwi Phil

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Re: Turin: advice on lighting Tunnel houses

Never thought of that!!
I have seen rolling benches, but to roll just the bottom one....
Thanks Turin, I will give it some thought.
Cheers
Phillip
 
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