Upholstery

[TwoBallScrewBall]

Hi,<br /><br />Well now that I'm sure my boat is seaworthy, it's time to make it look a little better. 1988 Bayliner Capri.<br /><br />The vinyl, especially in the bow area, is shot. Looks like mice or something nested in it. Maybe a cat used it as a scratching post. Anyway, I am going to refoam and revinyl the pads that run along the sides of the seating area. SInce they are shot already I had no problem slicing them open to take a look. The assembly is confusing me. The pads are 1/2" ply with foam glued to them, then vinyl stapled from the back. The thing that puzzles me is the way they're attached to the fiberglass... The screws go in from the front side, under the foam and vinyl. As far as I can tell, to build them this way means that you have to cut the wood, then staple the vinyl over the top edges, then screw the wood to the boat, then glue on the foam and wrap around the vinyl, then reach up around the back and staple the bottom of the vinyl. Does this sound right? <br /><br />Anyone ever reupholstered a capri want to lend some advice? I'm thinking of drilling holes through the ply and the fiberglass, installing blind nuts on the front side of the ply, then completely upholstering the panels and screwinf them in from the back, but space is tight. <br /><br />Thanks!

 

[wajajaja]

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got a 89 bayliner cuddy, same problem in the back, i think they assembled the interior and set it into the hull. <br /> i got a pair of new lounge seats/pedestals on ebay 170 includding shipping. <br /> ill bet the damage came from birds.

 

[crazy charlie]

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Huminski,that is the correct way to do it.You can also Screw the finished product to the fiberglass and use a plastic cap/cover that they sell at west marine for just such a thing.Charlie

 

[LubeDude]

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Huminski: Ive always wanted to comment on your sig picture, Very cool, did you take it, if so, good job and great imagination.

 

[djvan]

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If your bow seat backs have a two color scheme to them, right in the crack of the color change you can put a screw there and it will be hidden, This is how my four winns bow seats are.<br /><br />DougV>

 

[TwoBallScrewBall]

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Lubedude, thanks! I had just put a new engine in the boat, and this was the night I had finished all the wiring. It was dark, but I turned on the nav lights and took a pic of the boat with the lights on to send to my dad who had helped me with it all winter. All you could really see was a faint outline of the boat, my garage in the background, and the nav light, but the fact that the light was on was the point of the photo. I cropped the pic and made it my sig pic. Thanks for the compliment! The picture actually means a lot to me. <br /><br />DJVan, That's how some of the screws are, in between the seams. But then there are the mystery screws that are completely encapsulated in stapled and glued vinyl and foam. <br /><br />My dad came up with an idea. I am going to see if I can get some of those plastic retainers that hold auto door panels on, and using thinner ply (1/4") install them through the ply, then drill holes in the glass to accept them. I can then fully upholster the panels, and just press them into place. Before I press them on I'm going to lay a bead or 2 of liquid nails or whatever strong adhesive I can get my hands on. I'll allow the glue to set for a few days under pressure (clamps), and that coupled with the tension from the plastic retainers (not sure what they're called) should do the trick. <br /><br />Anyone else, please feel free to chime in with any ideas, though!<br /><br />Thanks!

 

[1986mariner150]

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You could use those things like i have seen on the back of clocks that look like an 8 with the top much smaller than the bottom. Run some screws most of the way in the in put the heads through the bottom part and slide down to lock in. Then leave some sort of strap long on the bottom and screw it below the bottom cushion to keep it from sliding back up.

 

[Link]

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Yup what crazy charlie says. (He isn't so crazy BTW) <br />Used to work on new 1988 Bayliners at a dealership, then in the parts department for a couple years, then sold them. Been to the local factory a dozen times. If West Marine doesn't have the exact cap covers you can always order them from a bayliner dealership. <br /><br />Link

 

[quantumleap]

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If you use an adhesive, use silicon and make a circle with the bead. Then when you press it tight, the air in the center of the circle gets forced out and forms a vacuum, holding it tight. I would not use liquid nails, as it will eat thru the gelcoat surface underneath and you will never be able to get it off again without a major mess(although the repair work will probably out last the life of the boat).

 

[Formula1974]

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We just did this last week on our 86 bayliner. I got the cap cover things from home depot for 50 cents a pack of 2. they only had white and black. I can post some pics tomorrow if you wanna see what they look like havent taken any new ones since i finished. I was in a little hurry so I just wrapped the whole panel in vinyl and stapled it on. It looks great. Not as good as having the different steps that used to be on it but it looks like new.

 

[TwoBallScrewBall]

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Formula, if you can, please do post pics. <br /><br />I think what I'm going to do is this:<br /><br />On the sides, there is enough room behind where the screws went in to just get a few fingers up in there. The ply there is 5/8", and I'm using 3/8" as backing for the upholstery. I'm going to use 1-1/2" stainless bolts, epoxied into the boards, to fasten the sides. I'll drill holes in the hull sides for the bolts to pass through, and with a washer on each side I'll have about 1/4" of bolt left to grab a nut on the backside. <br /><br />Boy, this post alreadt sounds almost POOFable...<br /><br />Anyway...<br /><br />I think I can do the same thing for the panels that attach under the windshields (the seat backs basically). The only real problem will be the small bow pieces. There is no access to the back of that area to attach nuts, so I'm going to go with the door panel fasteners and adhesive there. <br /><br />I have the side panels cut and picked up a piece of foam last night. I'll hopefully at least have these done this weekend. <br /><br />I'll post some pics of the before and after when I get done. <br /><br />Thanks!

 

[Formula1974]

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You can go to my website and take a look at some I took this morning. I made the seats in the back also and put hinges on them so they can be flipped out of the way and also it makes it easier to get in the boat by giving a wider step. The screw cover is the bottom pic. Also the carpet I got at home depot for 15 bucks for a 6 x 9 piece. It took 2 to do the floor and both walls behind the panels.

 

[Formula1974]

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it would probably help you out if I posted the website huh?? www.geocities.com/formula1974

 

[TwoBallScrewBall]

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OK, my turn....<br /><br /> Bow Project <br /><br />Coming out good so far!