Water in cylinder - need advice - 1995 OMC 5.8

trappg

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I bought the boat back in Nov '10 knowing it had a few problems to work through and most recently I have found the most challenging. Here are the facts. 1995 Chris Craft 23 Concept with a 5.8 OMC/King Cobra. I've run the boat on the lake twice now both times it ran rough for a while but finally cleared out. All old fuel had been removed from the tank and fuel filter replaced to eliminate fuel as the potential problem. Yesterday I was replacing plugs when I noticed the port rear-most cylinder was full of water. Logic told me to next get a compression reading on that cylinder. After blowing as much of the water out I was able to get a solid 140 lbs of pressure which seemed to hold. This most likely ruled out a blown head gasket or cracked cylinder. As soon as I removed the compression gauge I ran the engine on the trailer with ear muffs. When I shut it down, the cylinder immediately filled again with water. Where could this water be coming from, intake side? Exhaust side? Cracked head? Best scenario seems to be something wrong with the exhaust manifold? Worse possibilites may be a cracked intake, head or block? Any ideas from you experts? Obviously it will need to be torn down to really diagnose but am hoping its a cracked exhaust manifold jacket or intake. A few more facts: I do get the signature white smoke while running on the trailer which is a tell tale that water is going thru the cylinder. There doesn't appear to be any water in the crankcase oil. Since I've had it it has been kept in a garage that gets no colder than 40 degrees so it has not frozen. I cannot however speak for what the previous owner may have done to it with regard to winterization. It was previously stored in a dry boat rack.
 

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Re: Water in cylinder - need advice - 1995 OMC 5.8

Where could this water be coming from, intake side? Exhaust side? Cracked head?

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,...

Ya gotta start somewhere, 'n the exhaust manifolds are it,...
If they're Ok, then the intake,...

There's usually Rust Tracks to follow...

Might even be the Risers,...
 

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Re: Water in cylinder - need advice - 1995 OMC 5.8

Well, after pulling risers off, I'm 90% certain it's a failed gasket that lives between the riser and manifold. There were rust signs indicating water was pouring from the exhaust water jacket over into the dry exhaust pipe. Basically making a puddle of water on top of the exhaust valves which pours right into the cylinder. I've ordered gaskets and will be one happy boater-dude if $12 worth of gaskets fixes this. Even tho my boat is 16 yrs old, it hasn't been used a lot and I gotta believe the risers and manifolds still have some life left in them. Only time will tell.
 

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Re: Water in cylinder - need advice - 1995 OMC 5.8

Even tho my boat is 16 yrs old, it hasn't been used a lot and I gotta believe the risers and manifolds still have some life left in them.

Ayuh,... If those few hours were in Saltwater, you're probably Wrong 'bout that....

Dress off the gasket surfaces with a flat file....
If they're Not perfectly Flat, Junk 'em....
 

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Re: Water in cylinder - need advice - 1995 OMC 5.8

I had the same problem when I changed plugs in the Fall. Water on one port side plug evidenced by rust. I pulled the exhaust manifolds and risers. The risers were eat up pretty bad, especially port side for some reason, and I found rust tracks going down from the port riser into the manifold. I received new risers yesterday along with new gaskets and hardware.
 

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Re: Water in cylinder - need advice - 1995 OMC 5.8

16 years on risers and manifolds are well into the "you're running on borrowed time zone"!!


You should replace both the risers and exhaust manifolds.

If they leak even a little after shutdown after replacing the gaskets...... it'll be really bad if they leak a little right after your last shutdown of the season........That will allow water to sit on top of a piston (or pistons) for the entire Winter, giving you a nice surprise when you "try" to start the engine next Spring. After-which, you'll be looking for another engine.........



Just saying........



Good luck.


Rick
 
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