Water in oil- 3.0 mercruiser. Runs fine.

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Earlier this year when I was getting my boat ready for the slip, I discovered a small amount of water in my crankcase oil, not mixed. Wasn’t 100% sure how it got there. Flushed it with clean oil and it did not seem to be taking on any new water so I put it in the slip. I’d say I got a dozen 1 to 2 hour cruises in without any appear to water in the oil. Now all of a sudden, I have mixed oil and water in the crank case. The engine still runs fine,
wouldnt even know there’s a problem except I check the dipstick religiously. So, I’m no stranger to wrenching, I’ve been building street cars and bikes since I could drive, so I started tearing things apart at the marina with the boat still on the water. Today I pulled the manifold, and the first thing I notice is that, number 1: there is a small 1in crack in the outside of the block, hidden under the manifold. I noticed the slightest amount of drip rubbing down from under the manifold so I thought it was the manifold gasket leaking. Number two: under the manifold gasket I notice there is two, unused nickel sized holes with caps pressed into them. One of the caps seems to have migrated out a little and cut a partial ring hole in the gasket, and it looks like a there is a small failure point connecting it to the channel next to it. My first thought was replacing the exhaust manifold and the head gasket while I have the manifold off. Now that I see the small block crack, I’m more worried that I should just get a new engine. Now I talked to the owner of my marina, who’s been working on boats for 60 years, claims that it’s rare for the block to crack internally, it usually cracks to outside, Plus I suspect the crack has been there for at least 3 seasons, as I’ve noticed the small drip for some time. So, what do you think my prognosis is here? Anyone with any insight for me?
 

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Now I talked to the owner of my marina, who’s been working on boats for 60 years, claims that it’s rare for the block to crack internally, it usually cracks to outside,

Ayuh,..... I strongly disagree with the marina guy,.....

They easily crack, internally, all along the water jacket on the portside of the block,....
 

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Plus one. More crack to the inside than the outside... Marina guy is talking out of his.... hat... :D
 

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Ayuh,..... I strongly disagree with the marina guy,.....

They easily crack, internally, all along the water jacket on the portside of the block,.....

Maybe he was just trying not to break my heart, lol. Well that’s not good.
 

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Ayuh,..... Before ya take it apart any more, drain, isolate the block's coolin' passages, 'n pressure test it with air,.....

You'll Hear the leak, follow the sound to it,.....
 

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[/QUOTE].

Ayuh,..... Before ya take it apart any more, drain, isolate the block's coolin' passages, 'n pressure test it with air,.....

You'll Hear the leak, follow the sound to it,.....
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So I thought about doing that, but I already have a small crack on the outside of the block, so I’m going to hear it there, no? My initial thoughts were cleaning up the outside crack and welding it, or even in epoxy. But the outside crack isn’t what’s causing the water in oil either. Because of the outside crack, I think I have to tear down the whole thing to find the problem. The thing is that crack has been dripping water for 3 seasons, without water in the oil, I just attributed it to the manifold gasket because of its location. I’m hesitant to atttribute the problem to that because of this, I carefully winterized. Either way, I found a used, low hour motor just in case.
 

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Maybe he was just trying not to break my heart, lol. Well that’s not good.

I accidently left hatch slightly a jarred one time and rain water dripped into valve cover PVC tube opening. Just enough cause oil on stick to be milky. It scarred the crap out of me. I changed oil and motor ran fine.
 

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Just something easy to check is to see if the flapper in the exhaust is good I kept finding water in my oil and couldn’t figure out how it was getting there, took the exhaust apart to clean my riser and notice the flapper in the exhaust was gone and letting water travel back up the exhaust on throttle cuts and shut downs
 

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Just something easy to check is to see if the flapper in the exhaust is good I kept finding water in my oil and couldn’t figure out how it was getting there, took the exhaust apart to clean my riser and notice the flapper in the exhaust was gone and letting water travel back up the exhaust on throttle cuts and shut downs
Well that would be awesome and come to think of it I don’t think I saw one when I pulled the manifold and exhaust off. After work I’ll go check again.
 

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Well that would be awesome and come to think of it I don’t think I saw one when I pulled the manifold and exhaust off. After work I’ll go check again.

I owned 2 OMCs back in the day. Each had v8s and elbows (not risers). None had shutters like MCs. I guess that is one reason why OMC went out of business? However, OMC elbows and exhausts manifolds were easy to scrap rust away from internal walls. Real easy! I just replaced 4 shutters on my Sea Ray restore. Make sure they are undamaged.
 

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Update. I replaced all the manifold and riser gaskets. The flapper was fine. Since replacing the gaskets, I have no water in the oil yet, so I think it’s fixed. Time will tell.
 

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Update. I replaced all the manifold and riser gaskets. The flapper was fine. Since replacing the gaskets, I have no water in the oil yet, so I think it’s fixed. Time will tell.

Numerous posts on here about external cracks on the 3.0s repaired with jb weld. Doesn't explain the water in oil though, and not sure what cap got pushed out. Core plug?
 
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