what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

trigby

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Hello , what would be the symptom of a bad crankcase seal ring? 1997 mercury efi is hitting harder on #5 and barely hitting on #6, I have good fire and already swapped the injectors, I thought mybe a worn seal ring on the crankshaft? Thanks for any info, Tim.
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

Yes i have spark on all cylinders that are good, have 140-145 lbs of compression on all cylinders, i have swapped the injectors,moved reed plates to a different location,i have even swapped out the complete plenum with diffent injectors from another motor and still #6 cylinder is not really even noticeable when you pull the plug wire and #5 hits harder than any other cylinder , seems like #5 maybe getting some of #6 fuel does that sound possible? . yes the timing is correct, starts great everytime just that one cylinder not hitting great.I even pulled the heads everything looked good.I figured it would be in the crank seal ring.Thanks , Tim.
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

Crank seal rings vary rarely go bad, more likely the lower crank seal is your leak, possibly allowing a small amount of water to be sucked in. What color is the piston dome and spark plug? Very clean?
 
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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

At what rpm are you doing the cylinder drop test? Swapped plugs from 5 to 6 and see if problem follows? Are you noticing any runability problems? Your EFI system (merc) is a more crude form of EFI. The spark is going to jump across the electrode at the easiest conductivity (more fuel makes more conductivity in the cylinder) and plus the engine is not under any load, I assume when you are testing. Are you chasing a ghost?
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

I have done everything but swap the engine wiring harness, right own to to ecu.I am drop testing at ide,and # 5 is barely hitting in the water or on the hose, goes dead when put in gear. runs good on hard acceleration and WOT, no miss or stumble ,just at idle. more like the devil instead of a ghost.
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

there is no water intrusion at all ,already pulled the heads ,all the pistons had carbon but the #5 head was clean as a pin ,not from water but from fuel i guess because when i got this boat it would not even stay running unless i gave it some throttle,was flooding out due to bad temp sender on port head , replace that and started and ran alot better ,will stay running at idle anyway now just missing at idle .
 
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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

I would increase the rpms in N to about 1300-1500 (no more than that) and do your drop test again and see if you hear a difference in rpm change while dropping cylinders. You may have sync and link problem. If you can get your hands on a manual and check TPS at proper idle rpm in gear.
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

Ok jeffersondodson I will try the higher rpm in N drop test and see how it does, as far as the tps i have no inline connector to check it with, I have swapped out the whole plenum with different injectors and tps and air temp sender from another motor and still has a miss,I could have a sync n link problem , have to look farther into that, thanks buddy for your help.Tim.
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

A very 'clean' piston and spark plug are usually a sign of WATER, not a fueling problem.

I am suspecting a leak between the cyl and block.

Post your model and serial so Faztbullet can see which engine you have.
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

Sounds like Water.Are you blowing white smoke?
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

Check dva voltage from trigger to inner switchbox,this is where ECU gets its signals to fire injectors. The fact that you have swapped injectors rules out the injectors and leads me to believe its may be a wiring harness issue or ECU problem. Sync & link is not your problem....
 

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Re: what would be the symtoms of a bad crankshaft seal ring??????

No there is no smoke, when i first bought this boat the motor would not stay running unless you gave it more throttle ,it was indeed flooding, when i changed out the temp sender on the port head it started running better no flooding anymore, There has never been any sign sign of water on the plug or even in the cylinder when i pulled the heads, none. if water was getting into the cylinder it seems like the piston would be affected by it also , which it is not it has carbon just like all the rest do, so i figures since it was floodin at on time ,for no telling how long, i figured it was fuel wash????? anyway it has a brand new trigger installed because that is what my local dealer told me it was, WRONG.And i have also swapped out the ECU from another good running motor , have changed out, complete intake assy , injectors,tps , air temp gauge, switchboxes , complete coil assy,stator,idle stab box, the other black box thats on top that goes to oil pump wires,plugs,remote wiring harness to eliminate the boat. new fuel lines, kit in low pressure pump, check float ,filter in vst tank, swapped reed housings around to different location have checked output from stator, trigger, switchboxes all looks good i dont think fire is my problem i have spark on all plugs and thru the plugs.thats why i figure it may be a crank seal ring because #5 hitsharder than any other cylinder esp#6.Ihave not swapped the wiring harness on the motor, so you may be right on Mr Fatzbullet, thank you guys for all your info, im about ready to strike a matchstick do this joker, thanks, Tim.
 
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