What would cause this???....

Fun Times

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Re: What would cause this???....

Did you or your mechanic take the nut off? Or did you find it like that?:confused:
 

Don S

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Re: What would cause this???....

For it to break like that, something would have to hit the drive while in reverse. Or someone hit the drive with a car or truck when it was on a trailer.


PS: Please keep picks to around 640 wide or just leave them as a link.
 

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PS: Please keep picks to around 640 wide or just leave them as a link.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, meant to do that. Haven't been here in a while.
 

flconrad

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Re: What would cause this???....

BTT- Still trying to figure this out- shop has given me an estimate of $4500- saying that motor has to be pulled to replace gimbal ring and transom shield should be replaced also. Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance.......
 

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Re: What would cause this???....

Looks like the gimbal ring corroded enough to split in half at the upper swivel shaft when the u-bolt loosened up. Most likely the transom shield is also corroded and ruined from the sideloads on the unsupported swivel shaft when the gimbal ring broke. With that gimbal ring corroded that bad at the weakest point on it, I doubt if you would even have to hit anything for the upper swivel shaft to split it once the u-bolt loosened up.

$4500 is actually not bad for a new transom shield, gimbal ring, and installation. The gimbal ring is about $800 by itself, and I believe the transom shield is about $2000. Bellows kits and other miscellaneous stuff will probably be about another $500. With marine labor costs running about $100/hr, that means they're removing and replacing the engine and entire transom assembly in about a day. Probably a pretty good estimate.

Makes you wish you had done some preventive maintenance I bet! :D

To replace the transom shield you MUST remove the engine.

If the transom shield is still good, to avoid removing the engine to replace just the gimbal ring, you could use one of the Mercruiser "Frankenstein Bolt" kits, or the JR Marine kits which are very popular with the off-shore bunch.

http://www.jrmarine.com/instructions.htm

I've replaced three Bravo gimbal rings over the last 5 years using the JR kit with excellent results. When you call JR marine you get the owner (Ron Bender) on the phone.
 

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Re: What would cause this???....

They can see it, and we can't. If they say the transom shield needs replaced, from the looks of the gimbal ring, I can beleive it.
 

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Re: What would cause this???....

Makes you wish you had done some preventive maintenance I bet!

Ayuh,... I agree with your diagnosis, Completely...

I think checking the torque of those nuts is an Annual thing ain't it,..??
 

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45Auto Good Eye/Call on the corrosion to the gimbal ring, I can agree to that also.

flconrad, Is your boat bottom painted???

The reason I'm asking is because, If I'm seeing that photo correctly, it looks like to me the paint comes all the way up to the side of the transom housing assembly???

If it is painted and touching the transom housing assembly, then that would be a source of how the transom housing assembly could get corrosion on it so badly.

The paint would need to be about inch and a half away from the transom housing assembly.;)

Page 1B-15
Checking Optional Quicksilver Anti-Corrosion Anode Kit
If boat is equipped with Quicksilver Anti-Corrosion Anode Kit, inspect anode and replace if
eroded to less than 50% of its original size. Carefully follow installation instructions, that accompany
new Anode Kit, to ensure proper installation.
Boat Bottom Care
To achieve maximum performance and fuel economy, boat bottom MUST BE kept clean.
Accumulation of marine growth or other foreign matter can greatly reduce boat speed and
increase fuel consumption. To ensure best performance and efficiency, periodically clean
boat bottom in accordance with manufacturer?s recommendations.
In some areas, it may be advisable to paint the bottom to help prevent marine growth. Refer
to the following information for special notes about the use of antifouling paints.
Antifouling Paint
IMPORTANT: Corrosion damage that results from the improper application of antifouling
paint will not be covered by the limited warranty.
Painting Boat Hull or Boat Transom: Antifouling paint may be applied to boat hull and boat
transom but you must observe the following precautions:
IMPORTANT: DO NOT paint anodes or MerCathode System reference electrode and
anode, as this will render them ineffective as galvanic corrosion inhibitors.
IMPORTANT: If antifouling protection is required for boat hull or boat transom, copper
or tin base paints, if not prohibited by law, can be used. If using copper or tin
based antifouling paints, observe the following:
? Avoid an electrical interconnection between the MerCruiser Product, Anodic Blocks,
or MerCathode System and the paint by allowing a minimum of 1-1/2 in. (40mm) UNPAINTED
area on transom of the boat around these items.
71176
a
b
a - Painted Boat Transom
b - Minimum 1-1/2 in (40mm) UNPAINTED Area Around Transom Assembly
NOTE: Drive unit and transom assembly can be painted with a good quality marine paint
or an antifouling paint that DOES NOT contain copper, tin, or any other material that could
conduct electrical current. Do not paint drain holes, anodes, MerCathode system, and items
specified by boat manufacturer.
Maintaining Ground Circuit Continuity
The transom assembly and sterndrive unit are equipped with a ground wire circuit, to ensure
good electrical continuity between engine, transom assembly and sterndrive components.
Good continuity is essential for the MerCathode System to function effectively. Refer to Section
7.

http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Servmanl/11/11b1r5x.pdf
 

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Re: What would cause this???....

...The paint would need to be about inch and a half away from the transom housing assembly.;)

As per the Merc service manual.... Manual #11, section 1B, page 15....

Looks to me like the entire bell housing, gimbal housing and gimbal ring have been anti-fouled.

And my first thought on seeing the pictures was 'corrosion damage'....

Chris.......
 
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