What would you say to this guy?

paulspaddle

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Awhile back I was interested in a 1989 Wellcraft eclipse. I was looking to make this purchase long distance and looking at the boat personally wasn't an option. I talked to the guy numerous times and felt this was worth looking into further. The agreement was when he took the boat to be winterized I would pay for a marine mechanic to do an inspection. I would pay $250 for the inspection and we would consider that my down payment.

Well the inspection came back all good EXCEPT the motor was not the 4.3 he advertised in the ad but a 3.7. In talking to the marine shop I am confident that this mistake was out of ignorant error more than anything else. The guy knows little to none about boats and had the shop do it all, BUT none the less he made a mistake.

Right away I said, I wasn't interested in the boat.....here is the latest in string of mails between us....

Honestly, I don't expect a dime from this guy, but he has put me on some kind of professional mailing list and I get electronic 'invites' to stuff. I'm will ing to let this drop but each time I get a 'invite' mail from him I send him a letter.

Yes, I can click to have myself removed from his mailing list, but to be honest I want him to do that himself. As long as he's too lazy to do this I will be a thorn in his side.

For your musings...here's the latest in our 'exchanges'....

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> Hello,
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> I would like to invite you to join my LinkedIn professional network.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> - Robert Evans Jr.

The only way to get access to Robert Evans Jr.'s professional network is through the following link:

https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/870122119/gF_P2SMa/

You can remove yourself from Robert Evans Jr.'s network at any time.

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Hey Rob, another 'invitation', but no other correspondence (letter in the mail) or e-mails?

I will take this opportunity to remind you that you agreed to send me $100 which is less than 1/2 of what I spent on the marine mechanic.

I will also remind you that I don't and didn't dispute the that motor was well cared for, but it was misrepresented and even though it may have been an honest mistake or not, it still cost me over $250 CDN.

That motor in particular was made for only 4 years. Well cared for or not, parts are getting very scarce (there is no after market for those) and thus are pricey if needed....this is the main reason I want to avoid that motor. You obviously cared for it well and put a higher value in it, (which is why I did give you a calculated offer) but I hope you can sympathize that as a buyer I'm looking for what suits me best.

It seems you found another buyer which is great for you.

I too have a young family and that $250 I paid is a sore spot for this month.

Regards,
Paul Willems

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Hi Paul,

I told you I would pay you $100 for the mechanics report. As you know, I did not get that. I know the money you paid, but I feel the time I invested in taking two sets of pictures and towing the boat to and from the shop was worth more. Four special trips to my parents house (1 hour round trip) plus allot of emails and calls.

I hope you understand,

Rob


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Yes, but Rob....plain and simple it was your error. Intentionally or not, the fact is you falsely advertised the boat motor. This whole thing is unfortunate I admit, but none of it would have happened if the ad was correct. You put time and effort into selling the boat which is also unfortunate, but I'm sorry I don't see your reasoning why I am the one to pay 100% for your mistake. I can sympathize absolutely for sure, but I'm afraid I can not agree.

As per our last conversation I will let integrity play its role, but each time I get a mailing from you its a reminder of this unfortunate event.

Paul

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rbh

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

If hes going to bug you, you bug him. seems to be only fair
 

EddiePetty

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

...I would use the 'auto-delete/block' option in my Email and just forget the money spent on the survey. After all, wasn't that the intent of the survey.
Life's far too short to worry yourself to death. Sure, the money lost will sting for a while, but in the end, you actually got what you paid for: confirmation of a boats condition.
Forget it and smile....it's almost Christmas !!!! :):)

FWIW...Ed in 'ol Virginny
 

Fl_Richard

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

Most email programs will have a filter feature. It may take a few minutes to set it up but configure the filter so:

When mail is reciceved
From sender "Rude_Seller"
Forward message
To:"Rude_Sellers@badtaste.com"
Then move message to deleted items folder

I use MS Outlook ,most email programs will have something similar. Of course the above was an approximation of what your program will actually have.

This will forward the message back to him and delete the copy from your computer. You wont have to do anything. Every time you get a message from him, he will get it right back. All you have to do is set up the filter.

Cheers!
 

paulspaddle

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

The gamble of the survey was to check the condition of the motor. IF it was blown or a piece of junk...so be it, I'd call it a bullet dodged.

The main issue is the misrepresentation of the motor.

I'm not worrying to death....maybe a little spiteful. (smirk)
 

Mike Robinson

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

From the info you post Paul it seems like you are handling this politely but firmly. Good for you. You state that he found a buyer, I would also wonder if the seller passed the information from the survey you paid for to this buyer.
 

boat1010

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

I understand you being upset. But like said in other posts. The reason you spent the money was to gather information. You did that. If the money wasn't spent you would have had the boat and the headaches that went with it. I think it was money well spent. I would just delete his E-mails and be happy. Just block his E-mails with a filter and move on. Lots of luck. Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
 

26aftcab454

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

cut your loss and move on-sorry but thats what survey/ inspections for .
 

kenmyfam

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

Consider it a learning experience !!! and move on.
Block the sender and kiss the money goodbye.
 

tallcanadian

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

It doesn't sound like you will get anything from this guy. I guess you can scratch him from your Christmas card list. But then again he may have been told that it was a 4.3. You actually likely saved yourself a few backs in the long run by spending that 250 on a mechanic. It's hard to buy site unseen and long distance. Your taking a bigger chance by doing so. Good luck. I do hope things work out in your favour. I know if I gave you my word then I would keep my side of the bargain.
 

nitsuj

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

Unfortunately I agree with the above. I see your point, but also agree that the price to have a mechanic look at it should come from your pocket. The whole reason you agreed to pay it was to have the mechanic let you know if there was any problems. He found one and because of it you chose not to buy the boat. If you really believe that the seller wasn't aware, then it's not different that if the mechanic had found a bad main bearing. It would be a problem the seller wasn't aware of, and you would be out the money for the survey.

Again, you have a valid point, but I don't think you'll see any money. Sending emails over and over will only frustrate you. Consider the $250 a small price to pay for not ending up with the wrong boat.

As for the emails from Linkden, I wouldn't worry about that much either. He probably didn't subscribe you on purpose, it might be sending email to everyone in his address book. It's not a scam site or anything, it's like Facebook for professionals. He doesn't even they're being sent most likely. And may not know how to stop it.
 

paulspaddle

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Re: What would you say to this guy?

I agree with you guys. Maybe the title of this thread implies I'm looking for new ways to communicate with this guy. I'm not. Nor am I loosing any sleep over it. I was sharing a deal gone sour.

I won't see penny from this dude...aka: dud.

I bought this other boat two weeks later....

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=365799

And so things are all good. :D

Thanks for all the input, its always interesting to hear other viewpoints...and hence why I posted....Cheers.
 
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