Who was the dipstick that "wired" my boat and motor

[Maximerc]

What a mess Green wires running with Positive volatge. Red wires with Neg.The cigarette lighter was even wired so the outer case was the hot part. Wires from the engine not marked at all going to the battery (yea hook the black to Neg... what the ..they are all black !) The green wire was running voltage to the radio, which was not working. I ran new ground wires to all the stuff on that side ..then seeing that green wire hooked it to my ground..Ohh brother what a mess.Melt city ! Yea I know I shoulda checked it. I wire machines where I work, I can tell you one thing.. every thing is now straight and labeled....

 

[Specks n Reds]

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[papasage]

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at least it was colorcoded i had one that had all white wires . the wires wernot for 12 volt

 

[JB]

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Sloopy! Did you do that??

 

[Xcusme]

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I worked with a guy years ago, working with 25 pair cable, who I later found out was color blind!! Red, Green, same difference right?? He did absolutely great work, very clean and neat...only problem was ...nothing worked! <br /><br />I did learn this tho....<br /><br />There are old electricians<br />And , there are bold electricians<br />But, there are NO old, bold electricians <br /><br />Keep that DVM handy and assume nothing!

 

[roscoe]

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Maximerc, that boat worked fine when I had it. You must have messed with it. I rewired it just for you before I sold it. I would think you would be thanking me. Well, like the reciept said, as is, where is, so your on your own now.

 

[denniz]

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Maybe the question is not what dipstick... but how many dipsticks have wired this boat. Your just lucky you dont have 110v on the boat also.

 

[sharkcat]

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It was me I DID IT !!!!The ACME Sausage Company wire shop ran out of wire so I had to use what I had...but I did paint the terminal ends the right colours with my daughters water colour paint set. Is there a problem with that.I suppose youve gone & cut the coloured ends off Makes me so angry people criticising my work Hope this helps

 

[moderator1]

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Moving to Boats.

 

[sloopy]

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WHOOPS! sorry about that! You see I thought it would be a good idea to bring out the Christmas spirit!

 

[snapperbait]

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I just did a bunch of re-wiring on a 55' Hatteras... Talk about a mess... The boat has 12 volt, 24 volt, and 32 volt battery banks, and 120 volt and 240 volt for shore power and generator.. Miles of wire with very little of it color coded or labeled as to what it is, even at the circut breaker panels... Boy, did my meter get a workout on that job... <br /><br />And the boats owner (nice people ) wonders why I talked to myself during the entire job? DUH?<br /><br />I'm ok now tho... I think?

 

[Ralph 123]

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Just tear it all out and start from scratch and do it right. That's what I did and I am still talking to myslef! Damn, I knew I should have just bought a Corvette or something!<br /><br />Just remember. The most common cause of boat breakdown is electrical. Use good stranded tinned marine wire with good quality mariner terminals and follow the ABYC standards:<br /><br />ABYC Standards:<br /><br />Conductors shall be at least 16 AWG (except 18 AWG may be used as internal wiring in panelboards). Conductors shall have a minimum rating of 600 volts (E8.14.1.1). All conductors and flexible cords shall meet the requirements of the applicable standards of Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. (E8.14.1.6). Flexible cords shall have a minimum of 300 volts (E8.14.1.2).<br /><br />Where AC and DC conductors are run together the AC conductors shall be sheathed, bundled, or otherwise kept separate from the DC conductors (E8.15.6). In engine spaces the temperature rating shall be at least 75°C dry. The insulation shall be oil resistant (E8.14.1.4).(UL states that "cable that complies with the requirements for oil resistance but is not so marked is not acceptable for oil resistant use".)<br /><br />Conductors used for electronic equipment, navigation lights or other circuits where voltage drop should be kept to a minimum shall be sized for a voltage drop not to exceed 3% (See Table C). Conductors used for lighting (other than navigation lights) and other circuits where voltage drop in not critical may be sized for a voltage drop no to exceed 10% (E9.14) (See Table D).<br /><br />Wiring shall be installed in a manner that will avoid magnetic loops in the area of the compass and magnetically sensive devices. Direct current wires in this area, which may create magnetic fields, should run in twisted pairs (E9.16).<br /><br />Wiring connections shall be designed and installed to make mechanical and electrical joints without damage to the conductors (E8&9).<br /><br />Ring and captive-spade type terminal connectors should be the same nominal size as the stud (E8&9).<br /><br />Twist-on connectors (wire nuts) shall not be used (E8&9).<br /><br />Metals used for the terminal studs should be corrosion resistant and galvanically compatible with the conductor and terminal lug (E8&9).<br /><br />Solder shall not be the sole means of the mechanical connection in any circuit. Exception: Battery lugs with a solder contact length of not less than 1.5 times the diameter of the conductor (E9.16.K8)<br /><br />If conductors must be routed in the bilge or other areas where water may accumulate, the wiring and connections shall be watertight (E8&9).<br /><br />All connections shall be in locations protected from the weather or in weatherproof enclosures, or shall be weathertight. If connections are exposed to immersion thay shall be watertight (E8&9).<br /><br />Conductors shall be supported throughout their length or, alternatively shall be secured at least every 18 inches (E8&9).<br /><br />Solderless crimp-on connectors shall be attached with the type of crimping tools designed for the connector used and which will produce a connection meeting the requirements of ABYC (E8.15.14 and E9.15.K4).

 

[Link]

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Maximerc:<br />Couldn't resist making a post here...<br />You said: "What a mess Green wires running with Positive volatge." If my Green wire on my trailer didn't have positive voltage I wouldn't have a right turn signal! Did you ever think of just turning on the turn signal on your boat when you wanted to use your radio?? DUH! No Brainer here ! You said: "The cigarette lighter was even wired so the outer case was the hot part" Question here is .. did the lighter still get hot?? So what! It worked And if it didn't work then you still could have used the wires! Hmmm pretty petty stuff here! Your next statement really sucks... I quote you again "I can tell you one thing.. every thing is now straight and labeled...." What fun is that! I ask you?? Where is the fun if you can't be laying on your back looking at the wiring while your about to wash up on shore on a incomming tide <br />YUP Been there Done That<br />PS don't even think of taking Ralph Spencer's advice: Costs to much... just use a old lamp cord from your house.. if it sparks to much its backwards.. turn it around and if the lights go on its right BTDT on too many old boats... Just rip it all out then spend the extra bucks and buy marine wiring and re-do everything.. and keep it simple... This was a fun post! <br /><br />Luck to ya Link

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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UMMMM!!! NW Ohio. Wonder if that could be one of the boats I had. <br /><br />Have to ask a question on color codes.<br />What good is it to someone that can't tell what color is what anyway.<br />I guess you would have to use a meter then.<br /><br />Whoops, their leads are colored to, so if you hook the wrong one up, you will get the wrong reading and then rewire it to look right and whoops again, meltdown. <br /><br />I just buy a heavy gauge extension cord and cut it however long I need it and walaaa!! <br /><br />But seeing how you are from the buckeye state, I would be looking at OBJ and gonfishn reallllllll close as to the culprits.

 

[Fishsher]

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Trust me. Ive seen worse and have worse.