Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

mtbdudex

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I did a search here on "LH steering" found nothing, so I'm asking these Q's:

Why do "some" old boats have LH steering? (at least my 1959 16' Crosby did)
Was there some govt spec that mandated that or just up to boat manuf?
When was the spec changed to RH steering?

I never thought about it until posted in the "show us your old boat thread" my 1st boat:
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I'm sure somebody here knows.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

they were just originally on the right, because it was easier to get use to as cars are on the right. then they figured out the the with higher HP motors, the torque of the prop, tended to make the boat lean to the left. by moving the drivers weight to the right side of the boat, this corrected the prop torque problem.
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

they were just originally on the Left, because it was easier to get use to as cars are on the Left. then they figured out the the with higher HP motors, the torque of the prop, tended to make the boat lean to the left. by moving the drivers weight to the right side of the boat, this corrected the prop torque problem.

There,... Fixed that for ya TD........ ;) :D
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

You just have to spend a little more money and you can put the steering wheel where ever you want.
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

Kid: You missed a place to put a guage.

Is that a steering column on the right, so you can switch sides or run a co-pilot? I'd think the latter would be dangerous with twin engines, and a cranky wife who wants to go home NOW at one helm. Might split the boat in two.
 

mtbdudex

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

So to summarize facts via the 20,000+ post experts:

Q: Why do "some" old boats have LH steering? (at least my 1959 16' Crosby did)
A:Because they (Boat manuf in USA/Can) followed the LH steering of cars.
Did RH car steering nations then have RH steering boats from the get go?

Q:Was there some govt spec that mandated that or just up to boat manuf?
A: ? Not answered, assumption is no govt mandate

Q: When was the spec changed to RH steering?
A: No "spec" or "rqmt" per say, just the boating industry in 1950's - 1960's transitioned from LH to RH steering due to the boat torque issue as mentioned above.


Sorry for being stickler, but I like to know "why things are the way they are" for some things.


Kid - sweet set-up!
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

You just have to spend a little more money and you can put the steering wheel wherever you want.

In that configuration.. who controls the radio? :cool:
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

when I did my search this did not come up, now it shows up below this active thread (btw neat forum feature), seems covered before:
why do boats have steering on the right?

After reading that 2 year old thread this one (post #14) seems most fact based...

Funny enough this was one of the most frequently asked questions on the Cdn Coast Guard Office of Boating Safety web site. (note: OBS is now part of Transport Canada). Their typical answer was: Two reasons. 1- Builders choice/preference which would seem to satisfy the prop thrust suggestions and 2 - Under IALA B aids to navigation rules for NA your give-way zone is on your starboard side from dead ahead to 30 degs aft of your starboard beam. This gives the operator with a starboard mounted controls the best visibility over this zone and is thought to be the safest.

The starboard mounted controls do make it a slight bit trickier when canaling although I've found it handy to be able to see the submerged walls or banks of the canals when it gets tight.

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

if the story I heard is true they follow the british nautical rules, and thats why you pass steering wheel to steering wheel?
Just a guess!
rob
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

Kid: You missed a place to put a guage.

Is that a steering column on the right, so you can switch sides or run a co-pilot? I'd think the latter would be dangerous with twin engines, and a cranky wife who wants to go home NOW at one helm. Might split the boat in two.

If I could afford the boat I could afford to add another gauge. :D On most of their models the wheel can be to either side. It may be for a co-pilot since a lot of their boats are on the race circuit.

The boat is a 41' Skater that was at last years Shootout at the Lake of the Ozarks.

http://www.skaterpowerboats.com/home.html
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

Another benefit of Starboard Helm is the use of the right hand for the engine and drive control . . . ;)

Port Helms were popular here for a while. Most often with a jet drive (no prop torque) and a foot throttle. Foot throttles can be difficult to mount against the side of the hull (Starboard Helm) on a small boat, but the pedal works well in the middle for obvious reasons. Generally I won't buy a Port Helm boat as I do not like using my left hand for shifting.
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

So .... um .... I guess this means that all of you folks with center console boats will be having to mount counter rotating twins, if you don't have them already! ;)
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

OK, I'll take a shot at this...

Modern boat design, like many things, has its roots based on history.

Back in the old days, before powerboats, the captain steered his sailboat (or rowboat, such as Vikings longboats) from the right side, as most folks are predominantly right-handed. The captain also navigated from this helm position, often using his sextant to gauge the stars at night. Thus, the right-hand side of the boat became known as the "steering board", and later as "starboard".

Since the helm was positioned on the right-hand side of the boat, this left the left-hand side of the boat with an empty space in which to carry cargo. The boat would arrive at port with that side of the boat to the dock so that cargo could be easily loaded/unloaded. Thus, the left-hand side of the boat became known as "port".

As boats became more numerous, there arose the need for traffic rules. Since the captain/helm was on the starboard side, maritime rules were developed to take advantage of this fact. Hence, the captain is able to see other boats on his right and is able to "give way", whereas with highly-stacked cargo on the port side, a captain may not see boats on his port side, so he has the "right-of-way". Green and red lighting then followed suit in this manner. These rules also formed the basis for land-based traffic rules which came much later. This is why you "give way" or "yield" to the person on your right (right-of-way) when you meet at right angles at an unmarked intersection in your car/truck.

Later, as motorboats came into existance, the engineers, realizing that in an empty boat most of the weight is concentrated at the helm (starboard side), designed props to rotate in a clockwise fashion (when viewed from the rear of the boat), so that prop torque would be somewhat cancelled by the weight of the helm. As you know, or at least now realize, counter-clockwise rotating props were/are designed to counteract prop torque in twin-engine setups.

Now, why were there LH-steering boats? These became popular after WWII, when the country (USA, that is) prospered, people had money, and manufacturers wanted to get people into boats. The easiest way, they figured, was to configure the boat much like an automobile, so that new boaters would not be intimidated. A typical case where marketing dominated over "form follows function", and resulted in boats that likely performed below what they optimally could have.

Anyway, that is my $0.01 <=== deflation (bad economy, ya know)
 

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Re: Why old boats have LH steering? when RH steering?

Very interesting... I learned something new today. I had no idea that's what a sextant was for :cool:
 
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