Why starboard side steering?

croxford

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Been wondering why we have the steering position on the right rather than the left side of a craft. It must be historical in nature, but sure would appreciate being pointed in the right direction for a bit of research. Just sounds interesting. Thanx in advance friends.<br /><br />Ray
 
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Re: Why starboard side steering?

croxford,<br /><br />There was a lenghthy discussion on this topic a while back.<br /><br />Use the search feature and use the key words: "starboard steer" or "right side steer" in the "boating questions" area.<br /><br />Happy reading. :)
 

PaulHolcomb

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

I have often pondered about this myself. Especially of late since I'm building a plywood boat that has plans for the wheel on the Port side from 1959. I spent 6 yrs on Submarines in the U.S. Navy and guess what? The helm sits on the rightside. I too would like to know why.
 

Pursuit2150

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

Why does a pilot in a 2 seater sit on the left?
 

croxford

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

Thanx guys, and djohns19.<br /><br />Did do a bit of searching as you suggested but found if anything ,here at least motor configuration paid heed to common practice. I suspect that if anything manufacturers followed conventional lead for the general idea that steering leverage of one sort or another would come from the right. <br /> I am a pilot also and understand the need or advantage of the left seat. Traffic patterns in general are counter-clockwise at an airfield of any sort. The pilot-in-command has the best advantage and view of the situation from the left seat. Note that helicopters fly in a clockwise approach pattern at the same field! The pilot-in-command of that helicopter sits in the right seat....<br /><br />So, why not, when the "rules of the road" are pass to the right, absent other direction, do we not have the "command" seat in the best position to observe the action (such as we do with automobiles)? In British terrotories we drive on the left,sit on the right, presumably to "see" the action!<br /><br />Just a thought: Horse and car racing in this country is done to the counter-clockwise. Why? Simply because we, as a brand new republic sought to distance ourselves as much as possible from our oppressive homeland. In England racing is all done clockwise! I just have to believe that this must tie in with starboard side steering. Those folks have a superior, if not longer heritage with the seas.<br /><br />Any ideas guys? Thanx again
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

I thought we raced cars counter-clockwise because "Go fast, turn right" just doesn't sound as cool as "Go fast, turn left" :D ;) :D <br /><br />In a prior thread on this, it was mentioned that the stbd side helm might have to do with torque due to rotation of the prop causing boat to lean to left.<br /><br />I've also read that the left side is called "port" because the left side of old cargo ships had opening on left and ships always docked with the "port" side to the dock. Starboard came from some type tiller (steering board) that went over the side of the ship (not thru hull) on the right side. It couldn't be on left because it would hit the docks. Anyone familar with this story???<br /><br />BL...
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

Back in the 1950's, I asked the same question. Was told, the reason for Starboard Steering was - <br />Marine Inboard Engines were "Right Hand Rotation" and more weight (the Driver) was needed on the Right side to counteract the effects of Engine Torque. At that time, I had a lightweight,16 Ft runabout with a "Soupped Ford Flathead" (Auto Engine with Left Hand Rotation). Port Steering did help.
 

ebbtide176

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

i have no history lessons to offer, but i think we should all drive cars that positions the driver away from the opposing traffic ;) only because i've been in a head-on crash before.
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

Allot of "hot boats" with inboards and V-drives have port steering. I guess it keeps your right hand available and not jammed in by the side of the boat.<br /><br />Bob
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

drivin' on the right was started by the 'romans'.. the marched on the right as to have there right hand - sword hand exposed to the on-comin' traffic
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

Okay Crab trivia for ya....<br /><br />A salute is done with the right hand and was to represent honor, respect and a sign of peace. In the military we rendered salutes only with an empty hand.<br /><br />But....how does that explain the left hand drive in England??? Is that a siren I hear in the background :rolleyes: <br /><br />Bob
 

epresutti

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

Bob_Vt,<br /><br />Left hand drive in England (so I am told), was a result of mounted riders (since most were right handed) having their sword hand ready for on-comming foes. I believe this to be the origination, perhaphs some of our UK brothers could help us out on this one.<br /><br />Also with regard to the salute, I also seem to remmeber this was a vestage from the knights raising their faceplate to expose their faces to the foe, when the face plate was lowered, the fight was on.<br /><br />Don't know if either of these are 100% accurate.<br /><br />Safe boating to all.<br /><br />Cheers.<br /><br />emp.
 

blifsey

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

In Boy Scouts, there are several stories why we salute with right hand. All have to do with showing that the right hand did not hold a weapon.<br /><br />BL...
 

croxford

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

WOW ! Don't know if I needed to know all of this...! Lots of interesting ideas, thanx. <br />Sure, that is precisely why we shake hands with the right hand. It is symbolic of having no weapon or bad intentions. The absolutely empty wepon hand exteded for the "opponent" to see. Makes me wonder about "lefties"?<br />Thanks again.
 

Beernutz

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

BLifsey, <br /><br />I am familiar with your story. Vikings, the greatest of all sea navigators, built their Kraals with the "Steerboard" on the right side of the ship. This made it necessary to make "Port" on the left side, to avoid damaging the steerboard.
 

epresutti

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

Beernutz,<br /><br />Some other interesting (or not so) trivia, I did a search in the old English dictionary and found:<br /><br />Definition of "port" (also known as leeboard) to be the left side of the ship when facing the bow (I didn't know the leeboard term)<br />Definition of "board" to be the side of the ship (or a flat plank).<br /><br />Safe boating to all.<br /><br />Cheers.<br /><br />emp.
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

OH, BOY,.. I REALLY MESS UP UP THAT POST !<br />just like that cable pull.. <br />to early in the mornin' .... an gettin' late for work..( yes i still have a job) i shouldn't of fired off a post in haste..<br /><br />IT'S THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD.. like in england... NOT THE RIGHT SIDE...<br /><br /> i don't know about the salute.. but the handshake was to show 'no weapons'....
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

That's why dogs are trained to heel on your left side. To make sure you stay on the right!<br /><br />Actually, it's to provide a layer of protection between you and opposite-bound pedestrian traffic. Doesn't sound like we're very trusting, does it? Do they heel on the right in England?
 

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Re: Why starboard side steering?

I thought the steering was on the right side of the outboards, so they would have a handy place to mount the control.
 
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