will it hold its shape with the top off?

treedancer

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Hi everybody been lurking around this forum for awhile and trying to put a floor in a 16 foot i/o Glassport runabout. Have the floor out and the rivets loose but am leery of taking the top off am worried about it loosing its shape. It will have two new stringers in it when I am done. The reason that I want to take the top off is to replace the wood around the gas tank while which is rotten.
 

bigboy

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

I've taken the top off and the hull stays in shape. But if you're going to redo the stringers you have to see that the trailer support the boat good enough that it stays in shape.
 

swimmin' for shore

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

I haven't had any problems, but I've read that you should brace your boat if you're going to have the top off for any more than a day. If it does lose shape, you'll end up being really, really sorry about it. With that in mind-better safe than sorry.
 

prockvoan

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

If the boat it supported right,remove the top,then install some 2"x4" across the top,screw them in place with the holes that are there,spacing them about 4' or 5' apart.If the job that youare planning on doing only takes 2 or 3 days,I wouldn't even bother doing the 2x4 thing.
 

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

The main dimension you need to worry about is the width at floor level. The hull needs to be supported in a way that does not allow for twist, warp, hook, or bow. This can be accomplished on the trailer, or on specially built jigs. Do not brace from the ground in conjunction with the hull being on a trailer, your body weight in the hull will cause the trailer suspension to settle, but the braces from the ground won't so the support becomes uneven. <br /><br />Measure the width of the floor every few inches from back to front, confirm these measurements stay current when the structure is out and new structure is being glassed in. Periodically check the hull bottom from underneath for distortion. Do not try to glass all the stringers in at once, do them one at a time. Otherwise you have a stringer curing with your body weight in the hull, and any deformation your weight is causing could be held by the curing stringer. <br /><br />You glass one in, you get out, you let it cure. The hull holds its shape. You also want to let the bare structureless hull set for a few days before glassing any new structure in. This allows the hull to return to its as-molded shape, as opposed to the slow deformations that has happened over the years as the structure rotted and the boat sat on the trailer. Don't worry about the tops of the hull sides, they can flop, it doesn't matter as long as the floor level stays put while glassing. You will find when you put the top back on that you will have to do a bit of jockying the sides in and out to get things to line up. Good luck...
 

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

Thanks a lot everybody I appreciate the advice this forum is a lot of help I learned a lot just hanging around and coping the mail. And Jason got your website on bookmark been tons of help. Will be out there this week doing something soon as the rain lets up. <br /> Thanks Don
 

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

Hulls can get real flexible when you take the deck off and gut the floors and stringers. I'm the odd man out on this on. I'd personally do the stringers before taking the deck off. They will give more structure to help keep it in shape later. If you want to build molds to keep it straight it doesn't matter.
 

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

I do agree with Bill on this, but considering the size of the boat in question, it should be fine. If is was a larger hull, like 21 feet or something like that, it would probably be more of a concern. Considering this is a 16 foot I/O hull with only two stringers to begin with, I think flexiness won't be a huge issue, but it is something to look for. My hull did not flex much at all when I had it apart, a testiment to all the layers used on the older hulls...
 

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

This boat has four stringers but only replacing the two on the port side they were mulch when I removed the floor. The other look like they were put in yesterday will leave them alone. Guess I could make a cut toward the front and put in a cross member and lay the stern floor in place prior too removing the top. That should give it some stability .The top has to come off to get to the tank which has rotten wood all-round it. Jason about how much did the top on the skankybeast weigh? Debating how many neighbors to call on.<br /> Don
 

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

I couldn't tell you, but it took me, my neighbor, and his wife. It wasn't so much heavy as it was just big and ungainly. Even considering the fact that it was a bowrider, it still was not bad at all. I had also stripped everything off though. The windshield assembly was quite heavy, I am sure I shaved close to 75 pounds just getting rid of it.
 

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

some good info here.. i'd do the stringers first, also.. why not.. <br /><br />also to simplify JASON's measurments,, cut a wood piece the measurment a save it.. instead of a ruler,, slide the wood piece instead..<br /><br />also,, before you permently attach anything,, lay a GOOD 2x4 across the boat at mid-ships.. <br /><br />get back an 'eyeball' the space/airgap between the 2x4 an the transom .. to see if you got a 'rack/twist'.. shim/brace/prod/whatever to achive a perfect 'eyeball'.. <br /><br />the human eye can pick-up mi-nute discreps..
 

treedancer

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Re: will it hold its shape with the top off?

Thanks for al the advice and help I have to lopping sons so should have plenty of muscle to get the top off. And crab bait will try your advice on the old eyball thanks again.<br /> Don C
 
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