Wood refinishing question

bandit86

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How deep does varathane type clear coat finishes penetrate? If I thin it can I make it penetrate even more? Mos sites say twice as deep as other finishes but I have no idea what that means.

I want a protected surface withot a layer of clearcoat on top that can flake off

I thought about penetrating epoxy but I would need too much of it. It is not cheap
 

rockyrude

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Re: Wood refinishing question

There are a couple of things you left out, what kind of wood are you finishing and what is the intended use for this piece of wood.
 

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Re: Wood refinishing question

....and what is the item? Penetrating epoxy is really good. It stabilizes the wood surface and makes your finish coats much more durable.
 

bandit86

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Re: Wood refinishing question

item 1 is a red cedar deck, about 300 sq/ft. I tried all thebest stains and waterproofers, nothing seems to last, I figured some soaked in varathane should get me more than 2-3 months of looking nice. heavy use, lots of rain and snow

item 2 is a north european hardwood gunstock, birchwood?? coated in some sort of shellac or other clearcoat type finish
 

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Re: Wood refinishing question

item 1 is a red cedar deck, about 300 sq/ft. I tried all thebest stains and waterproofers, nothing seems to last, I figured some soaked in varathane should get me more than 2-3 months of looking nice. heavy use, lots of rain and snow

item 2 is a north european hardwood gunstock, birchwood?? coated in some sort of shellac or other clearcoat type finish

IMHO, forget trying to keep the cedar deck looking nice. And you are right, shellacs, varnishes, varethanes and various polyeurathanes will just not work in an outdoor environment, with that soft porous wood. That is precisely the reason I tore mine out and replaced it with 24" colored concrete slabs. If you are going to try anything to keep it from peeling and to keep a decent color, I would use one of the various stains.

On the other hand for the hardwood stock, if you wanted to add color to it, use an oil based stain and some gunstock oil, like tung oil. You can really rub in a butt smooth finish with that. If you did not want to color it, I would use a couple of coats penetrating epoxy then coat it with a polyeurathane. You can rub out the poly, give it a couple of coats and end up with a smooth, tough satin finish.
 

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Re: Wood refinishing question

For the gunstock, I'd use Tru-Oil. It is easy to work with and will fill the grain very well. It dries quickly and can be recoated in about 2 hours. You can build up the coats for a durable finish. You can leave the final coat it as is for a glossy look or dull it with 0000 steel wool for a mat look....I've used a lot of Tru-Oil. Matter of fact, I just finished up an old Winchester shotgun and am getting ready to do a pair of Colt Python stocks.
 

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Re: Wood refinishing question

I use a lot of linseed oil when I am working on gun stocks..
 
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