Tubing accident

NelsonQ

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Easy to see how a little fun can quickly turn into a bad situation. Hope the rider was ok.

I pull tubes all the time, and that's way to much swing in such a narrow body of water.

Tubing Accident
 

i386

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Not too smart. Looks like a Chrysler engine too. Double whammy!
 

tashasdaddy

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that was 100% the captains fault.
1/ should not have been running that fast in that area
2/ should have never been towing anything there.
3/ you can fix stupid.
 

mphy98

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in Wisconsin that would get you a fine, too close to shore and too close to other boats. moron skipper...
 

salty87

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guy on the tube is lucky if he didn't break anything. the corner on the transom of a jon boat is the worst spot to hit. looks like he hit both of them.

"hold my beer and watch this"
 

oops!

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that was 100% the captains fault.
1/ should not have been running that fast in that area
2/ should have never been towing anything there.
3/ you can fix stupid.

in Wisconsin that would get you a fine, too close to shore and too close to other boats. moron skipper...

sorry guys......this kind of stuff make me mad.....

the captain should get more than a fine for this kind of stuff.......in a car, thats called undue care and attention......it is a criminal offence.

he could have killed that tuber.......thats why we need a real boaters licence...one that takes 40 hrs class and a few hrs on the water before you get one.....and one that can be revoked by doing stupid human stuff like that
 

WizeOne

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Although the Cap'n was at fault, I think the tuber was just as dumb as the Cap'n!
 

tashasdaddy

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Captain, is responsible for everything. tuber just stupid.
 

patrickray

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Seen the same thing in northern AZ a few years back. Except it was a quad pulling a tube in the snow.. Slammed right into a tree. The tuber had to be flown out by helicopter. Its really sad to see this type of thing happen. People just need to slow and think before they act...
 

cribber

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Unfortunately ya can't fix stupid from my experience... Hope the guy was okay and just bruised up cuz that had to hurt.
 

bassboy1

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He shouldn't have been tubing there. No ifs, ands or buts. I don't have a problem with that sort of speed in water that size, as I run rivers like that, but I would bet he doesn't know the water like I know the river, and there should be no tube in that, what, salt marsh.
 

jbjennings

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sorry guys......this kind of stuff make me mad.....

the captain should get more than a fine for this kind of stuff.......in a car, thats called undue care and attention......it is a criminal offence.

he could have killed that tuber.......thats why we need a real boaters licence...one that takes 40 hrs class and a few hrs on the water before you get one.....and one that can be revoked by doing stupid human stuff like that

I respectfully disagree that a license will keep idiots from being idiots. The DMV doesn't keep idiots from getting driver's licenses. And they're far more dangerous than a boat statistically. However, the 40hr. test you're speaking of would certainly keep the poor folks off the water! :(
I do totally agree with a fine that fits the crime.
Just my humble opinion,
JBJennings
 

Kiwi Phil

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We have a licence system....excellent....except, when it was introduced, people who were already driving boats could apply for the licence automatically without having to study for it.

Guess what....the biggest problem on the water are the boaters who never had to study for it....they are ignorant of 90% of the rules....arrogant as they are always right....but in reality always wrong.

It is added to your car/truck licence, so if you get caught committing an offence on the water, like drunk, you loose both the boat and vehicle licence.

You can pick that bunch 100m off. They haven't got a clue.

Feel it should be remembered the purpose of a licence is to make sure the holder can not only operate the machine, but knows the 'rules of the road' so to speak....and that is the important bit.

Cheers
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lowkee

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Why fine someone for being stupid? You're allowed to be stupid, so long as you don't injure others and pay for damages. That tuber knew the river was narrow. If the boat went too fast, let go!

Stupid happens all the time. I've been river boarding. Should I have been fined for having a blast going down a river? No. If I injure myself, that is its own fine.

Honestly, do you really think paying a fine will pay for that guy's boat? Not one dime goes to the victim.

Footnote: River boarding is white water rafting with a boogie board, flippers, a helmet and no raft. Very fun!
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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If it wasn't for stupid,,,,,,,we wouldn't have anything to laugh at :D
 

oops!

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I respectfully disagree that a license will keep idiots from being idiots. The DMV doesn't keep idiots from getting driver's licenses.

Feel it should be remembered the purpose of a licence is to make sure the holder can not only operate the machine, but knows the 'rules of the road' so to speak....and that is the important bit.

in canada our licence is to make sure that the operator has a basic understanding of what the rules of the waterways are.

Why fine someone for being stupid? You're allowed to be stupid, so long as you don't injure others and pay for damages.

the problem with the driver in this vid is that he is breaking many common sence rules......had another boat been coming from the other direction the cost would have been someones life.

i actually hate fines. i would love to see a system that would allow someone found guilty to get an education and comunity service in direct relation for the the offence...instead ......ie for a waterways violation like this.....hand the driver a green garbage bag. and say "both sides of the river.....ten mile strech.....go for it !.


Footnote: River boarding is white water rafting with a boogie board, flippers, a helmet and no raft. Very fun!

id live to do that.....sounds like a hoot !

wow.....was i just on a rant???......
 

LOW-LIFE

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I feel$ that a fine would probally not be the best way to go as they may get so pissed about the fine they forget what it was actually over or for, espically if theyre buddy came out lucky and just mildly bruised.

i also think the tuber shoulda been paying a little more attention and saw where he was headed and bailed.

you cannot fix stupid, and it is unfortunate that innocent people have to get hurt before some people learn theyre lesson.



that all being said i have done some really stupid stuff and im sure i am gonna end up doing more before i die... im sure all of us have our things we have done and im sure we all will make more mistakes down the road, hopefully none of the future mistakes get anyone or ourselves hurt.
 

projecthog

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:mad: Makes you mad just looking at it.

Ultimate Responsibility?;
The Nut driving. (can't call him Skipper! Skippers don't do that!...well...)

Responsibility for damage?;

Both Nut and Screwball (AKA tubeless human bullet) respectively.

Judgement?;

1)
No fine..., Cat O'ninetails...40 lashes for Nut driving, 25 for tubeless human bullet.(AKA Screwball.)

1,a)
10 And 6 lashes respectively, if remorse was shown and proven.

2)
Both Nut and screwball to be tied to same point where accosted and/or damaged boat in question was tied regardless of amount of lashes, locked in headstock (both Nut and Screwball) two days one night for public viewing, pinching in the dark and throwing of food stuffs etc. etc. *

*Note*
Etc.etc. to be at local discression.

3)
Paying for damages both physical and emotional;
Both Nut and Screwball.

4)
Seasonal suspension of Waterway and/or Boat ramp use;
One year as per local vote.

5)
That'll fix em!

6)
If fix a failure, repeat items 1 to 5 weekly proceeding Season 'till satisfied.

PH.:mad: but :D
 

projecthog

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Why fine someone for being stupid? You're allowed to be stupid, so long as you don't injure others and pay for damages. That tuber knew the river was narrow. If the boat went too fast, let go!

Stupid happens all the time. I've been river boarding. Should I have been fined for having a blast going down a river? No. If I injure myself, that is its own fine.

Honestly, do you really think paying a fine will pay for that guy's boat? Not one dime goes to the victim.

Footnote: River boarding is white water rafting with a boogie board, flippers, a helmet and no raft. Very fun!

Well...., I agree,..no fines! but...,

You hammer down past my dock at that rate, having a blast and make my boat rock itself into a new paintjob, THAT's going to be followed by another blast,.. either myself or a couple of hundred little round friends of mine.
You'll get to understand my feelings on that right quick,....respectfully guaranteed with fine precision.

That river was no place to be maneuvering at that speed.

What about the wake?

What about some respect for others in THEIR area?

No problem going fast, but there's a place and time for it.
Didn't see any whitewater on the river either, except the stuff created by that boat and the problem on the tube.

Licensing and fines, like some say, have their merit, but don't wake up the dogs for Pete's sake!

Next we'll see increased licensing fees to justify surveilance or presence of authority, and no boating zones around the gun boats.
Just another another river of cash flow for the greedy minded.
And so another sport bit the dust for freedom and cost!.

No offence, but why don't we just browbeat the offenders and make life a little uncomfortable for them?

They'll get the drift!

Gonna step out now, let this viagra work off.

PH.
 

QC

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Two comments:

1) I hate the license idea, but that's ONLY because I don't want more regulation of anything. I'd prefer proper enforcement of good laws and elimination of stupid ones.

2) How in the heck can any of you blame the guy in the tube for anything? How do you know they didn't start in a much safer area? Unless he jumps off, what control does he have? 99.9999% boat operators fault, .0001% the parents of the tuber's fault for conceiving him :rolleyes:
 
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