So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

[rbh]

I am all for safety and all, but this seems to be pushing the envelope buy suggesting that a tube or a pool toy is a vessel, as the only propulsion is the floater and for the most part it is the rivers current that is giving the thrust???
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[BuzzStPoint]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Um.. A tube is a vessel?

I'm gonna say no. Tube is a tube. It is not a life saving device nor more then it is a vessel.
Thats like saying Water Wings are a life saving device.

If a tube is to be a vessel. If they get caught out after dark wouldn't they need navigational lights?



As for the life jackets and whistle.... Life jackets should be up of the user. Whistle, would come in handy if you get separated like the article says.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Good rule.

I just looked up the river and it is quite fast and wide including whitewater sections.

I guess the line had to be drawn and that is not a bad place to base it on. If you allow the tuber's not to have a PFD then who would be next...... the kayak's ?

It's all about safety

 

[HopeSheFloats]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Good rule.
It's all about safety

Yep, nuff said! {IMO }

 

[tallcanadian]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

I guess I had 'vessels' in my old boat trailer tires..hmmm.

 

[adamjr]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

I'm with Bob on this one. Safety is the issue. Sometimes rules seem really silly but the end result is important.

 

[eaglejim]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Well I guess if I am going to do some white watering in a tube I am wearing a PFD,I know when we went down some whitewater in North Ga it was like a big rubber tube that could fit 8 or so but they called that a boat but we had helmets and PFD's and I was happy we had the helmets when we crashed into a boulder

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Absent the issue at hand, classifying a tube as a vessel is obviously silly. The issue, however, is that the nature of what the tube is being used for, can't be separated from the intent of the law - which is to save lives in what can be very dangerous conditions.

All Transport Canada did, was to fit use of tubes in a situation which it feels requires safety measure, into already established rules. They did this, simply because it is easier than writing a whole new set of rules for "tubes."

Ultimately, its not about the tubes - its about trying to enhace safety and reduce drownings. Not a bad goal, in my book.



???

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

I guess I had 'vessels' in my old boat trailer tires..hmmm.

Funny
Safety first though.

 

[rbh]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

The Shuswap river this time of year is 100 yards wide and for the most part is 2-3 feet deep and you can walk faster than you can float down it.
This being said you can still get a jet ski up it, as long as you stand up and look for the sand bars.
This brings me two my second question, although this river is for the most part unnavigatable this time of year, familys raft up and down they go for thier float,
"and it is quit often you see little kids snorkeling".

Do you think we will ever see them enforce the diver's flag???

It only makes sense if they are going to come down on the tubers.

 

[OldePharte]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

There has to be more of this story than reported.

She gets separated from her friends, then leaves the river to find a road???

Her friends don't notice that she's missing? Of course even if they go ashore, waiting for her to float by, she won't 'cause she went for a walk about.

So an audible signaling device is required. Not much use if one is using a helicopter to look for a missing person. Why no visual device? Metal reflector would be good.

Must real difficult maintaining registration on rubber tubes. And trying to mount navigation lights is a real headache. But then if one isn't on the river at night, I guess lighting is not a big deal.

You Canadians are a lot more laid back than us in the lower 48. I can't imagine the noise if everyone who goes down the Buffalo River (in northern Arkansas) had a whistle. It would be deafening.

 

[Thad]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

I'm going to have to say...I plead the fifth.

I have an opinion that I will gladly keep to myself.

 

[bassman284]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Well, it seems to me as long as the tubers are williing to forgo the services of Search and Rescue and the RCMP, they should be free to tube unencumbered by pfds and whistles. Just post a sign at the tube rental - "If you screw up, Search and Rescue will NOT come after you."

 

[jonesg]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

She had to sleep under the trees in her bathing suit.

Maybe they should include sleeping bags,
along with the whistle and half a brain.

 

[Kiwi Phil]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

(Now lets see....7 votes to 2, and 2 sitting on the fence.)

I go along with it on the grounds of safety.
(It is always hard to get one rule to cover everything)

Cheers
Phillip

 

[Tubingluvr]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

I can see requiring a pfd, but the whistle seems a little extreme

 

[Mike Robinson]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Seems like the problem for the woman in the article wasn't tubing but leaving the river and trying to crash through the bush in a bathing suit!

 

[npd4432]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

Why do governments have to make rules to protect you from yourself???

 

[jonesg]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

(Now lets see....7 votes to 2, and 2 sitting on the fence.)

I go along with it on the grounds of safety.
(It is always hard to get one rule to cover everything)

Cheers
Phillip

They're making laws to cover their 6's from lawsuits.
The first thing people say is "there should be a law".
As if a lifejacket stops an idiot from wandering off into the woods when the searchers are obviously going to be looking on the river.

Its impossible to protect people from their own lack of common sense.

 

[stic88]

Re: So, who want's to weigh in on this subject?

i live in southern california, and we have a situation where illegal aliens jump the border fence and get into a 15 ft deep concrete lined canal and their families are upset at the irrigation district for not having bouys and ladders to get out of the canal. i say survival of the fittest.