1979 OMC 120 kept stalling and now won't start at all

Nomis52

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I bought a 120 last fall, and couldn't get it going. I installed a new fuel/water separator, lines, and a used fuel pump that I found on ebay. It started immediately, and I let it run in the driveway for about ten minutes. I shut it off and restarted it a half dozen times, just to make sure everything was working the way it should. Two weeks later, I got my first chance to put the boat on the water and test it. The motor cranked fine, but wouldn't fire. Not too long after that, the weather got cold and it was time to cover the boat and give up.

Now, I finally have good weather and I started working on the motor again today. The first thing I realized was that there was about 10 gallons of three year old gas in the tank, that I had diluted with fresh gas last fall. So I drained the tank and refilled it with some fresh ethanol free. I tried the key and got the same thing as last fall, cranking but no fire.

I changed the spark plugs and poured a little gas in the bowl. The motor started hard, but eventually fired. It ran for about 5 minutes and shut off. It didn't sputter out like it was running out of fuel. It just stopped instantly. I tried again and it stated easy, but only lasted two minutes. I repeated this a handful more times, lasting anywhere from one to two minutes every time.

Now, I'm back to where I started. I can crank the motor, but it just won't start. Its doing something new though. When I let go of the key, it backfires.

Anybody have an idea about what I should be checking? I'm not great when it comes to engines, so there might be something obvious that I don't know enough to check.
 

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Have you checked your fuel flow with the replaced pump? I'm curious if that used pump may not be working right. When I replaced mine I went to a mechanical that I got new.
 

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I disconnected the line where it connects to the carburetor and redirected it into a plastic bottle. It looked like the gas was squirting out pretty good when I turned the key. Is there any way to judge whether nor not there is a good flow? Is there any kind of number to measure it against?

The flow was actually a lot stronger than I had expected it to be.
 

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I think there is a number, but if it's a strong flow, that's probably not the right direction to look. Distributor is working right? You're not smelling excessive fuel, right? After that, my attention would turn to the carb.
 

Nomis52

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I'm only smelling excessive fuel when I hold the key too long while trying to get it to start.

I'll check the distributor this afteenoon, when I get home from work.
 

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Also - check that your throttle is not messed up. Maybe it's not holding idle for a simple reason like that.
 

Nomis52

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Is it possible to feel both very relieved and very foolish at the same time?

I pulled off the distributor cap to check and see if it needed to be replaced. Everything looked brand new and it seems to be the only thing on the boat that wasn't original. So that got me thinking about firing order. I quickly found a diagram online and found that 1 and 2 were switched.

I'd hate to admit that I did that when changing the plugs, so I'm just going to pretend the previous owner did it. I started it up and it's been idling at a perfect 500rpm for the last 20 minutes.

The problem may not have been exactly what you had suggested, but thank you for at least pointing me in the right direction.
 

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I'd hate to admit that I did that when changing the plugs, so I'm just going to pretend the previous owner did it. I started it up and it's been idling at a perfect 500rpm for the last 20 minutes.

Ayuh,..... Welcome Aboard,.... It happens to the best of us once, 'n awhile,.....

Turn in the idle screw on the carb abit,....
Ya oughta be seein' 650/ 700 rpms at idle, in gear, in the water,....
 

Nomis52

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Are you sure? The tune-up specs in the Seloc manual says the idle speed should be 500-600 rpm. I'll look into it a little more though.
 

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Is it possible to feel both very relieved and very foolish at the same time?
Oh yeah. And I'm very familiar with that feeling! :beaten: Glad it was the easy (and cheap) route.

If I could get a smooth idle on my old 165 OMC between 500 and 700 RPM, I went with it.
 

Nomis52

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I'm pretty comfortable with it right now. I'll have a better feel of it when I get it in the water on saturday.
 
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