Bayliner Seat Restore

Rody1285

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I have a 1996 bayliner and the seats are ready to be replaced. I looked online and I found replacement back to back lounge seats that include the base for around 200.00 per side. However I am looking at the base on my boat and it appears these are part of the actual floor. Can anyone confirm this? I have posted images below. I also noticed that the base on the driver side and bowed outward ?
 

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jbcurt00

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Yes the original seat bases in your pix are glassed to the deck (floor)

Cant see the outward bow you describe on the helm (driver) side

Moving this to the boat resto forum, I'd bet theres more work to be done then simply replacing tbe back to back lounge seats based on all the plywood mulch shown in most of your pix.

Iboata carries loungers too, and seats are often on sale, forum members get a discount as well.
http://www.iboats.com/Boat-Seats-Po...4818245--session_id.232374597--view_id.473663
 

Woodonglass

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Yeah, I'd recommend a thorough inspection of every Nook and Cranny looking for soft spots etc. Core sampling the transom, motor mounts, stringers in the ski locker. this will tell you if the BONES are A-OK!!!
 

Johnson110

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I got a set from a guy off Craiglist for 200 both sides, you have to do a little engineering work to make them fit but mine make the boat look great, use the existing box that are in the boat my bayliner is a 1990 year, but yeas make sure the boat has no soft spots as the man mentions good luck !
 

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Bayliner built a lot of bases in the floor. I like to order short bases and fasten them on top of the factory base. sometimes rebuilding the platform and replacing rot is necessary when retrofiting bases. As for the seats being a few inches higher most of my customers appreciate the better view while reaching planning speeds.Just watch the steering wheel clearance for lap room.
 
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Johnson110

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Does Bayliner use any kind of sealant on the floor underneath the carpet ? Going to cut carpet out and see what is underneath then either paint or fiberglass the floor!
 

kmarine

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Most of the time bayliner used an epoxy type paint on the plywood floor. after removing carpet I like to use a wire cup brush on a 4 inch angle grinder to remove glue residue. I have done many of these and if you don't want to spend a week scraping glue purchase one and be sure to use safety glasses as particles will fly everywhere. I can strip out and vacume a floor like yours in a few hours. check for rot and repair or replace flooring. Ilike to use hydroturff peel and stick flooring sheets and get rid of moisture holding carpet. large sheets are about $150
 

Rody1285

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My plan was to replace the seats. And I was going to recarpet the floors. The previous owner had removed the carpet and painted the floors with a deck paint from Home Depot. Upon inspection there's only two small areas of softwood on the floor boards. One is near the rear where the weight is repeatedly applied to jump in and out of the boat but this spot is underneath of a seat. The other soft spot is mainly inside of the box for the back to back seats. It does not appear that there's any pressure on this area so I was wondering if it was necessary to repair or replace this piece of soft wood. I will try to post videos or pictures shortly

I was going to use a palm sander to smooth out the floors, treat the floor with Minwax wood hardener. Paint over that then glue the carpet on to the clean dried surface. If anyone has some suggestions or a better way to do this, please let me know.
 

Johnson110

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Like That someone painted the floor, but would not use carpet may look nice but I am thinking that it will rot the wood ? Love to see the video of what is going on , remember these were entry level boats, I got one as it has the outboard 115 mercury and my wife wants the cuddy cabin, Sold a really nice 24ft chapparrel it had the I/O which I did not like always had outboards but the quality of the chap compared to the bayliner night and day, ok done rambling !
 

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As before
Moving this to the boat resto forum, I'd bet theres more work to be done then simply replacing tbe back to back lounge seats based on all the plywood mulch shown in most of your pix.

That soft spot at the back isnt likely because of the jumping in and out of the boat.

Take a look thru the resto forum topics, lots of them start this way.

IMO, you have significantly more work then you expect. Significantly more......

That wood hardener stuff is an expensive band-aid that gives false confidence that it 'fixes' a problem. It merely hides it.

The seller did you a great disservice if they gave the impression the defects were minor and easily fixed.

Johnson110, start a topic about your bayliner's rehab rather then telling the story here.
 

Johnson110

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Why can't you pick at the "skin " of the rotten wood and see how bad it is. They sell this stuff called " kitty hair" it is a resin with fiberglass in it I once used to repair a hole in the bottom of a boat worked great, but see what you have to repair first with those soft spots again I would pick the top layer of glass off first and see how much wood is bad!
 

proshadetree

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The back area is a seam in the flooring. Thats where mine was on an 88 model capri. Under the seat is I bet rotten. Ask yourself what your intentions are with this boat. If you are going to keep it for a long time, fix it right. But on any given weekend much worse is being used and enjoyed
 

mxcobra

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you can pick at the skin of the rott , the problem is if you start picking your going to keep picking until you have no deck or stinger left, because I doubt. you will find solid wood anywhere... then soon you will have picked yourself all the way down..
 

Woodonglass

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It only takes one catastrophic failure to bring the facts home in a hurry. As I stated before a thorough examination of all your boats structural components is Highly Recommended
 
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