Help me ID this on 2001 Johnson 115

Tanmanski

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Clymer manual doesn’t seem to identify this red lever/valve above the VRO pump. What position is nominal? Do I need to worry about the crack in the lever shaft?

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racerone

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That is the electric primer VALVE.------It takes the place of choke flappers.-----When fuel pressure is applied to it ( while cranking the motor ) you push in the key.-----This valve opens to spray fuel into the intake for starting.----A repair kit is availabe to repair that cracked manual lever.
 

Joe Reeves

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It would be best to replace that cracked part as it does pertain to fuel.

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(Fuel Primer Solenoid Function)
(J. Reeves)

The RED lever...... The normal operating/running position is to have that red lever positioned over top of the solenoid and aimed at the other end of the solenoid, gently turned to its stop. This is the normal/automatic mode position. Pushing the key in opens the valve within the solenoid allowing fuel to pass thru it in order to prime and start the engine. Looking upon this solenoid as a electric choke results in a better understanding of it.

Having that red lever turned in the opposite direction, facing away from the solenoid, allows fuel to flow thru it to the crankcase area. One would only turn the red lever to this position in a case where the battery might go dead and the engine had to be started via the rope pull method. Look upon putting the red lever in this position as moving a choke lever on a choke equipped engine to the full closed position. Either one would supply fuel to the crankcase/engine for starting purposes BUT if left in that position while running would flood the engine.

The later model primer solenoids are equipped with a schrader valve, used for attaching a pressurized can of fogging oil etc, available at your local dealership with complete instructions.

Pumping the fuel primer bulb up hard fills the carburetor float chambers of course, but that process also applies fuel pressure to the primer solenoid.

The two small hoses leading from the primer solenoid branch off via tees to each fuel manifold section that would feed fuel to the individual cylinders.

Pushing the key in activates the primer solenoid to allow fuel to flow thru it to the intake manifold passageways. Cranking the engine over causes the fuel pump to engage which in turn sends fuel pulses to the primer solenoid via the 3/8" fuel hose.

Some engines incorporates the "Fast Start" feature which automatically advances the spark electronically so no advance of the throttle is required for starting.
Engines that do not have the "Fast Start" feature will be required to have the throttle advanced slightly.

Starting procedure: pump fuel bulb up hard, crank engine and push the key in at the same time. When the engine fires/starts, release the key so that it falls back to the run position.

Bottom line..... Look upon the primer solenoid as an electric choke.
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Tanmanski

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Thank you racerone, very helpful. My Clymer manual does not address the function or nominal position of the red lever. Availability of a repair kit indicates the red lever & brass shaft w/the grey cap should NOT be able to rotate independently? I’m guessing the red lever is a method of adjusting how much fuel is added during enrichment? I haven’t had any problems starting it cold but once in a while, it’s reluctant (or won’t) restart when hot. I expect that is not related to the crack in the lever
 

Tanmanski

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Thank you Joe, also very helpful. I MAY have had that valve slightly open last time I had a fail to restart hot problem - I will replace/repair the red lever as you & racerone suggest.
thanks guys, GREAT forum. I’ll try to contribute. I ran 60’s & early 70’s V4’s for many years & have lots of anecdotal experience on them.
 

Tanmanski

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Joe, I do have the Schraeder valve. Is it normal for it to rotate independent from the red lever? There doesn’t seem to be any “stop” to the schraeder valve, it just continues to rotate?
 

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The red lever is NOT AN ADJUSTMENT.-----It is used to open the valve for manual operation !!-----The manual valve has 2 opositions.-----OPEN and CLOSED.----Nothing in between.
 

Joe Reeves

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Joe, I do have the Schraeder valve. Is it normal for it to rotate independent from the red lever? There doesn’t seem to be any “stop” to the schraeder valve, it just continues to rotate?

Unfortunately I do not recall the connection between the red lever and the schroeder valve... it's rather a faint memory that they move as a unit, in which case, the cracked red lever may be allowing what you've encountered. I assume that someone will jump in here with the exact setup... if not, it'll reveal itself to you when you receive and install the new red lever.
 

Tanmanski

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Copy that racerone, thank you.

i see now that this could be related to my fail to start when hot issue, IF it were in the wrong position

the schraeder valve seems to have no “stop” but I’m guessing that’s normal?
 
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