1989 force f5 150hp no fire

Greg1983

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I got a 89 force 150 outboard I’m getting no spark and trying too troubleshoot the problem but can’t find an accurate diagram does anyone have a diagram I can see or any info I’m using 1 battery too start it has 700cca my brother thinks it’s not enough battery and thinks it needs 2 wired in series any help would be much appreciated
 

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One 700CCA battery is more than enough.
The dealer I worked for used 450-650CCA for everything they sold.
That included 460 Fords and 454 Chevy's.
The no spark on any cylinder: Kill switch? Stator? Key switch?
This on a new install or previous runner?
outboardignitiondotcom has test procedures.
 

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One 700CCA battery is more than enough.
The dealer I worked for used 450-650CCA for everything they sold.
That included 460 Fords and 454 Chevy's.
The no spark on any cylinder: Kill switch? Stator? Key switch?
This on a new install or previous runner?
outboardignitiondotcom has test procedures.
I bought it from an old man who said it been in the shop and was running but I’m not so sure he was telling the truth my brother tested the wires he thought were coming from the stator while turning it over and was only reading 4 volts
 

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I bought it from an old man who said it been in the shop and was running but I’m not so sure he was telling the truth my brother tested the wires he thought were coming from the stator while turning it over and was only reading 4 volts
Tested wires he "thought" were coming from the stator???
You need a DVA or Peak Reading Volt Meter for the best results.
The regular analog meter can test the ohms from the stator.

You do a compression test? Uneven comp can make the motor turn slow and not fast enough to generate power.
 

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We ran a comp test on all 5 cylinders all reading were close too exact we used the dva adapter but didn’t take the wires off the wiring block do they need too be unwired and tested like that?
 

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In the picture added the wires behind the cover were the ones he tested which were believed too be coming from the stator I believe they were brown and the other side they were yellow
 

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So I unhooked everything and tested the stator wires while turning the motor over and had only 5 volts coming out of the stator brown wires from what iv read that indicates a bad stator right
 

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5 Cylinder Replace the original stator with the new one, matching wire colors (Some of these systems use brown/blue or brown/black/blue for blue and brown/yellow or brown/black/yellow for yellow). Install the supplied jumper wire from the #2 Brown/Yellow wire to the Brown/Yellow wire for the # 3 cylinder. If the original stator had a 2 pin plug on the battery charge wires, remove it from the old stator. Cut the ring terminals from the new stator and use butt splice connectors to connect the plug to the new stator's battery charge wires. Troubleshooting No fire on any cylinder: 1. Check the resistance from each blue to the yellow wires, you should read approximately 300 ohms. 2. Check the resistance from each blue and yellow wires to engine ground, you should read open circuit (Just like the leads were not touching anything). 3. Check DVA (Peak voltage) from blue to the yellow wires, you should read at least 180V. 4. Disconnect the stator wires and check the DVA (Peak voltage) from each blue and yellow wire to engine ground, you should read no voltage or extremely low voltage. No fire on one cylinder: 1. Check the resistance from the blue to the yellow wire on the pack not firing, you should read approximately 300 ohms. If the resistance is not right, check the other set of wires. If the other set is ok, gently pull on the wires close to the connector If the insulation stretches, the wire is broken inside the insulation and a new terminal needs to be put on. 2. Check DVA (Peak voltage) from the blue to the yellow wire, you should read at least 180V. NO FIRE ON TWO CYLINDERS: If two cylinders from the same CD unit will not fire, the problem is usually in the stator. Test per no fire any cylinder above. If the #1 and #3 cylinders are not firing, disconnect the Brown/Yellow wire from the pack #1 and retest. If you now get fire on #3, replace the #1 pack. If still no fire on #3, disconnect the Brown/Yellow wire from the pack #2 and retest. If you now get fire on #1, replace the #2 pack. If the #2 and #4 cylinders are not firing, disconnect the Brown/Blue wire from the pack #1 and retest. If you now get fire on #4, replace the #1 pack. If still no fire on #4, disconnect the Brown/Blue wire from the pack #2 and retest. If you now get fire on #2, replace the #2 pack. 2 Cylinder Using Combination Pack and Coil (2 per engine) Pack #1 (Firing #1 cylinder) Pack #2 (Firing #2 cylinder) Trigger: Orange Pack: Orange Trigger: Red Pack: Green Green Green White/Green Orange Stator: Brown/Yellow Stripe (2 wires) Pack: Blue Stator: Brown/Blue Stripe (2 wires) Pack: Blue 2 Cylinder Using a Single Ignition Pack and Two Coils & 3 Cylinder Connections: Color Code Cross Reference Color Code Cross Reference FUNCTION OLD NEW FUNCTION OLD NEW Trigger Orange White/Orange Stripe Stator Blue Brown/Blue Stripe Trigger Green White/Yellow Stripe Stator Yellow Brown/Yellow Stripe Trigger Red White/Red Stripe Ignition Coil White Orange/Blue Trigger White/Green Stripe White/Green Stripe Stop (Kill) Circuit White (Brown) Black/Yellow Installation and Troubleshooting Guide All rights reserved. Reproduction or use of content, in any manner, without express written permission by CDI Electronics, Inc., is prohibited. CDI Electronics • 111 Commerce Circle • Madison, AL 35758 • Fax 256-772-5701 • www.cdielectronics.com Pack #1 (Firing #1 and #2 cylinders) Pack #2 (Firing #3 cylinder) Trigger: Orange (White/Orange) Pack: White/Orange Stripe Trigger: Orange (White/Orange) Pack: White/Orange Stripe Green (White/Yellow Stripe) White/Yellow Stripe Green (White/Yellow Stripe) White/Yellow Stripe Red (White/Red) White/Red stripe No Connection White/Red Stripe White/Green Stripe White/Green Stripe No Connection White/Green Stripe Stator: Yellow (Brown/Yellow Stripe) Pack: Brown/Yellow Stripe Stator: Yellow (Brown/Yellow Stripe) Pack: Brown/Yellow Stripe Blue (Brown/Blue Stripe) Pack: Brown/Blue Stripe Blue (must be connected to the Brown/Blue stripe on pack 1) Coil #1: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Orange/Blue Stripe Coil #3: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Orange/Blue Stripe Coil #2: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Blue/Red stripe 4 Cylinder Connections: Pack #1 (Firing #1 and #2 cylinders) Pack #2 (Firing #3 and #4 cylinders) Trigger: Orange (White/Orange) Pack: White/Orange Stripe Trigger: Orange (White/Orange) Pack: White/Orange Stripe Green (White/Yellow Stripe) White/Yellow Stripe Green (White/Yellow Stripe) White/Yellow Stripe Red (White/Red) White/Red stripe Red (White/Red) White/Red Stripe White/Green Stripe White/Green Stripe White/Green Stripe White/Green Stripe Stator: Yellow (Brown/Yellow Stripe) Pack: Brown/Yellow Stripe Stator: Yellow (Brown/Yellow Stripe) Pack: Brown/Yellow Stripe Blue (Brown/Blue Stripe) Pack: Brown/Blue Stripe Blue (Brown/Blue Stripe) Pack: Brown/Blue Stripe Coil #1: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Orange/Blue Stripe Coil #3: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Orange/Blue Stripe Coil #2: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Blue/Red stripe Coil #4: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Blue/Red stripe 5 Cylinder Connections: Pack #1 (Firing #1 and #2 cylinders) Pack #2 (Firing #5 cylinder) Trigger: Orange (White/Orange) Pack: White/Orange Stripe Trigger: Orange (White/Orange) Pack: White/Orange Stripe Green (White/Yellow Stripe) White/Yellow Stripe Green (White/Yellow Stripe) White/Yellow Stripe Red (White/Red) White/Red stripe No Connection White/Red Stripe White/Green Stripe White/Green Stripe No Connection White/Green Stripe Stator: Yellow (Brown/Yellow Stripe) Pack: Brown/Yellow Stripe Stator: Yellow (Brown/Yellow Stripe) Pack: Brown/Yellow Stripe Blue (Brown/Blue Stripe) Pack: Brown/Blue Stripe Blue (must be connected to the Brown/Blue stripe on pack 1) Coil #1: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Orange/Blue Stripe Coil #5: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Orange/Blue Stripe Coil #2: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Blue/Red stripe Pack #3 (Firing #3 and #4 cylinders) Trigger: Orange (White/Orange) Pack: White/Orange Stripe Green (White/Yellow Stripe) White/Yellow Stripe Red (White/Red) White/Red stripe White/Green Stripe White/Green Stripe Stator: Yellow (Brown/Yellow Stripe) Pack: Brown/Yellow Stripe Blue (Brown/Blue Stripe) Pack: Brown/Blue Stripe Coil #3: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Orange/Blue Stripe Coil #4: White (Orange/Blue Stripe) Pack: Blue/Red stripe NOTICE: The color codes listed above may appear on the packs, stators or triggers. Some packs have solid colors and some triggers have striped wires. If you need further assistance, please call our technical support department.
 

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I’m going too retest the stator with your instructions and I’ll post my results thank you so much for helping me out I really appreciate it
 

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So I tested ohms from the yellow too blue and showed 790 ohms that is high enough suspect bad windings correct ?
 
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