1999 115hp evinrude ficht

[Landshark93]

Hey guys I’m having issues with my 115hp evinrude ficht model # E115fpleen

Bought the motor on the cheap with the impression that the #4 injector was the only bad thing but I have everything hooked up engine has spark has good compression everything seems to be working but the engine will not fire not sure what the issue is I have it on a stand not a boat only things that are hooked into the harness are the key switch the oil tank and I use connectors to complete the neutral switch


Engine will not start has spark and good compression and the #4 injector is getting hot for some reason and will not test right on the ev diag the other three are good and also I switch the #4 injector out with a different one bought off eBay and same thing it’s doesn’t test right like the others

Any help would be appreciated

 

[racerone]

It should start and run on 3 of 4 cylinders.-----Have you primed the oil system ?

 

[Landshark93]

It should start and run on 3 of 4 cylinders.-----Have you primed the oil system ?

That’s what I was thinking also should still at least start and by primed you mean at the oil tank primer bulb?

 

[racerone]

The oiling system must be ready and in service before you can start this motor.----And no , mixing oil in the gas does not work in this motor.

 

[Landshark93]

The oiling system must be ready and in service before you can start this motor.----And no , mixing oil in the gas does not work in this motor.

The oil tank was plugged in and primed am I missing something ?

 

[Crosbyman]

comp ok sparks OK ... now you need fuel

the best way to know if the injectors are spitting gas is to remove a plug ground the plug properly and insert a paper strip inside the cyl. if it does not get wet with fuel the injector is/are not spitting fuel in the cyl and the engine will never start without fuel.

inj #4 may be mecanically defective and EV diag won't show that but the other injectors should work if.... told to do so by the EMM.

injectors should be cooled by the fuel circulating in the injector & VST Getting HOT may be indicative of internal failure or total blockage. Have the injectors been serviced ?? see basic video

DIY injector cleaning?

Hi there, My E90 is running rough at lower rpm's, high rpm's running fine, so I intend to pull the injectors for cleaning. Unfortunately there are no companies known to me in Europe that do cleaning like fuelinjectorman, so I intend to do the cleaning myself. Any tips on how I get the best...

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check all fuses on PDP




if an alternate injector suffers the same fate control lead wiring or... EMM control may be faulty .

EMM normally fires the injectors with short ground pulses. FICHT works with a 40v main buss to all injectors and the fact the inj.#4 gets hot may also indicate a grounded control lead back to the EMM .

Check the harness or try to poke and twist the inj. control wires in case one is chaffed to ground.

best thing is to read the book for possible causes.

Q.? do you have the book to service your engine ??

 

[Crosbyman]

 

[Landshark93]

comp ok sparks OK ... now you need fuel

the best way to know if the injectors are spitting gas is to remove a plug ground the plug properly and insert a paper strip inside the cyl. if it does not get wet with fuel the injector is/are not spitting fuel in the cyl and the engine will never start without fuel.

inj #4 may be mecanically defective and EV diag won't show that but the other injectors should work if.... told to do so by the EMM.

injectors should be cooled by the fuel circulating in the injector & VST Getting HOT may be indicative of internal failure or total blockage. Have the injectors been serviced ?? see basic video

DIY injector cleaning?

Hi there, My E90 is running rough at lower rpm's, high rpm's running fine, so I intend to pull the injectors for cleaning. Unfortunately there are no companies known to me in Europe that do cleaning like fuelinjectorman, so I intend to do the cleaning myself. Any tips on how I get the best...

www.etecownersgroup.com

if an alternate injector suffers the same fate control lead wiring or... EMM control may be faulty .

EMM normally fires the injectors with short ground pulses. FICHT works with a 40v main buss to all injectors and the fact the inj.#4 gets hot may also indicate a grounded control lead back to the EMM .

Check the harness or try to poke and twist the inj. control wires in case one is chaffed to ground.

best thing is to read the book for possible causes.

Q.? do you have the book to service your engine ?? see manual FICHT -ETEC to assist
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RL4u9XPQxTEk6lVk-fPcXxd3O9ctuXL3/view?usp=share_link

I will check all this tomorrow I do have the service manual the video you sent seems to be different injectors of some sort I did how ever I bought 4 injectors off of eBay and swapped the #4 out with a different one so you might be onto something with a wiring issue

 

[Landshark93]

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I will check all this stuff also and start reading this service manual see what I can find out

 

[Crosbyman]

yes the ETEC inj. in the video are different from FICHT . The video was to show the basics of inj. cleaning

you are aware that changing injectors requires injector data spec updates to be loaded in the in the EMM otherwise engine damage will most likley happen at higher RPMs

here is a videoe on updating inj. data files for a ETEC suggest you look into this aspect for your FICHT .. to be safe... used inj. should come with a QR file.

 

[Crosbyman]

btw... check the VST ...your FICHT it likely has a small conical filter on the return manifold fuel supply from the injectors. it can block/impair fuel flow causing inj. issues ....incl cooling if fuel doe not flow


Even on the 2005 ETEC books they don't show it !!! CAREFULLY remove the hose... The barb VERY BRITTLE $$$$$ use a large wood screw twist it in the cone and pull it out for cleaning or replacement... if full of black crud... high pressure dist. hoses to from injectors needs to be replaced due to internal crumbling .

OnETECs the HP pump also has a small inlet filter .

when done reinstall proper size oieteker (?) clamp no tye wraps!

 

[Crosbyman]

HP Fuel Pump Screen?

Waiting for a decent day to do my fuel system flush and re-install the injectors. Searching on here shows several references to the "HP Fuel Pump screen". The question is, where is it? Not seeing anything in the SM, but may have missed it. Just hoping to save a bit of wrenching, as I often...

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[Landshark93]

Right now the service manual I have says my system works on 26volt not 40

The pdp is good
Injectors all have 11.3 volts not cranking engine
The wiring harness look to be in good shape on all 4
26v to injector 1&3- 12.3 volts to pdp fuse
26v to injector 2&4 -12.3volts to pdp fuse
26v to oil injector- 12.3 volts to fuse
All tested with engine cranking
26v to regulator - 12.3 volts
Relays all test good

Questions should they be spitting out 26v with the engine cranking ? Am I using the wrong meter ?

Right now I’m in the middle off removing the ecm to test the stator and will find out how to test the capacitor also

Thanks guys I will start messing with the fuel system once I figure out my voltage problems

 

[Landshark93]

And just keep in mind the motor is on a stand not a boat if I am missing some kind of safety precaution for the motor that won’t let it first because I don’t have the proper wires plugged in I am currently using wires to complete the circuit for the neutral safety switch. Thanks

 

[Crosbyman]

The FICHT 2002 manual I have access to says 40v as the running voltage and on ETEC it was boosted to 55 v running 30 v key on. looks like your key on to running ratio is similar to more recent FICHT & ETEC

Quite possible the 1999 version ran at lower volts . In any event the operating principle would be the same... ground pulses to fire the injectors . tried the paper stip test ??


assuming nothing logically wrong on the EMM.... a fuel pressure test on the Injector seems necessary. If no fuel reaches injectors not much will happen .

Can you at least check if the HP pump on the VST to "hear" if it spins at all at key on. you can alway try it alone by applying power to it.

FYI on the ETEC user board they frequently refer to Olly's brew as a lubricant to help reduce rusting and binding within the HP pump. It is basically the addition of a bit of oil in the fuel
to help lubricate the pump. On my 2005 75hp that model injects oil in the fuel supply so I do not worry about. In the later versions post 2007-208 they removed the oil li line to the fuel supply. ...Should you do find your HP pump seized up I read it "may" be restored with some soaking in oil to free it up. If they added oiling in pre 2007-8 maybe it was absent in earlier FICHT years.

 

[Landshark93]

the FICHT 2002 manual I have access to says 40v as the working voltage and on ETEC it was boosted to 55 v running 30 v key on

Quite possible the 1999 version ran at lower volts . In any event the operating principle would be the same.

Yes should be the same principle right now I’m checking the wiring plugs specifically the letter j purple and white wire it says I need an omc adapter what’s the best way to get a reading on it I have a regular volt meter with the need pin connectors

 

[Crosbyman]

if you are talking DVA adapter you can build one your self for a few $

or search google. all it is is a AC rectifier/storage circuit to allow AC peaks to me measured as DC volts

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[Landshark93]

if you are talking DVA adapter you can build one your self for a few $

or search google. all it is is a AC rectifier/storage circuit to allow AC peaks to me measured as DC volts

Ok thank you !

 

[Crosbyman]

Oly'S brew is adding TCW3 oil at 200/1 mix in the fuel

 

[Landshark93]

We’ll i pressure tested the fuel pump and got 5 psi next step is to test the lift pump it says to apply 15 psi to pulse nipple do I just pop a little air in there with a compressor?