Merc 3.0 alpha one gen 2 water in bilge

xtremist13

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Hey guys, I have a 2003 Sweetwater pontoon boat with the 3 liter Merc alpha 1 gen 2 drive on it. I took it out for the first time a week ago and noticed there was quite a bit of water in the engine pod after a 6 or 7 hour day of being on the lake. I have no idea where it is coming from and would like to get some pointers on where to start, or what to watch for next time I go out.

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Scott06

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Find out what it is from first . As mentioned bad bellows be it shift or driveshaft can cause more damage like input shaft seal corrosion and resultant leaks and ujoint damage. Bellows can be tough to spot given turning and raising of drive can leak or not leak at various points.

Could very well be from a loose cooling water hose or rubber on exhaust side.

As mentioned if bilge pump or battery dies then you can sink. If a trailered or hoist kept boat maybe if you know where it is leaking and you stay on top of it. If a slip kept boat you are playing with fire.

I broke my grandfathers boat lift years ago because bellows was leaking. Was fishing for an hour, couldn't get on plane. See bilge full of water, run bilge pump don't see water coming in... go on my way, put boat in hoist just high enough to take it out of the water a bit thinking im going to fish after dinner. Never go out, go down to hoist at 10 pm to pull the boat up... two back legs of hoist bend below water line...

The hoist and boat were 25 yrs old at this time, my 17 year old self didn't realize how much water I was taking on, and my grandfather didnt know his bellow were torn until next spring or the year after when the leak got obscene. Thought hoist was rusted below water line but real issue was the boat was full of water.

Im making a short story long, dont F around with it and spend some time assessing the leak before you cut corners and go out in what is essentially a sinking boat.
 

nola mike

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As mentioned if bilge pump or battery dies then you can sink. If a trailered or hoist kept boat maybe if you know where it is leaking and you stay on top of it. If a slip kept boat you are playing with fire.
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At least it's a pontoon so not sure how much water can get in there, but yeah, still wouldn't want to find out at least until you know where the leak is from
 

xtremist13

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Yeah I'm pretty certain I can't sink as it just has a short engine pod that are seperate from the pontoons but I certainly can see it causing rust, corrosion and damage. What all do you guys suggest to change while I'm at it? The other thing - how much do I have do from the inside of the engine bay, it's a ***** to get too...
 

xtremist13

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How do you suggest finding the leak? If I fill the bilge with a garden hose will it leak externally? It's on a trailer...
 

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How do you suggest finding the leak? If I fill the bilge with a garden hose will it leak externally? It's on a trailer...
do not do that.

start by running it on the hose. if its a hose leak or exhaust coupling leak, it will show up.

or make sure the motor well is dry, then drop the pontoon in the water and using a selfie stick and your phone, look around. use a flashlight and mirrors, or what ever you have to do to find the leak

if you havent pulled the drive in more than a year. time to do that now.
 

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How do you suggest finding the leak? If I fill the bilge with a garden hose will it leak externally? It's on a trailer...
Put boat in water look in there with scope camera turn drive side to side and up and down

While yes you likely won’t sink if water fills stern will be down and engine can get water in it and or ruin starter
 

xtremist13

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I am certain the previous owner hasn't done any proper maintenance in a long time.... So I may as well just haul the drive off. What all does a guy replace during this process? Or I guess I can also just back it into the water and see if I can pin point the leak but regardless I'm sure it's overdue for a going through back there
 

nola mike

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I am certain the previous owner hasn't done any proper maintenance in a long time.... So I may as well just haul the drive off. What all does a guy replace during this process? Or I guess I can also just back it into the water and see if I can pin point the leak but regardless I'm sure it's overdue for a going through back there
Find the leak first if possible. Pulling the drive isn't a big deal though, and if your bellows are leaking you'll have a greasy mess that will be obvious when you pull the drive. At a minimum, you should grease your u-joints and coupler and check your alignment. If you don't know when the water pump impeller was changed, that should be a priority too. There are a few other maintenance items to the drive that should be done yearly as well, including greasing the gimbal bearing, steering swivel (and retorquing the bolt), hinge pins all with the drive on. And absolutely change your gear oil if you haven't done it yet.There's a good sticky post kicking around somewhere with all of the information on a " New to You boat ".
 
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