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  1. tg3690

    50 hp high speed misfire

    A plugged up recirc will cause some problems.....won't cost anything to check it (maybe a gasket). Take off the cover part#17 and check the 2 small screens (#10) and the hose (#20) for blockage. Pretty simple system.....
  2. tg3690

    1988 50 hp force no spark?

    Did you take Nordin's advice in post #2? Otherwise you may just be chasing your tail and replacing parts randomly....orderly troubleshooting is needed to diagnose these ignition systems....wouldn't hurt to get a factory manual if you haven't already.
  3. tg3690

    50 hp high speed misfire

    Clymer and Seloc are better than nothing.....they try to cover too many different motors, models, and years and don't have the detail of the factory manual. You using 50:1 mix with a quality oil? Extended periods of idling will cause a lot of smoke.....a good Italian Tune Up on the water...
  4. tg3690

    50 hp high speed misfire

    Get a factory manual......will answer that question and a lot more.... Btw....your engine does not have a distributor, points, or a vacuum system....many folks try to apply automotive knowledge to these old 2-stroke motors.....they are nothing like your car/truck.
  5. tg3690

    Need to adjust the dial 1990 Force carbs mixture

    I got the Carbole mainly because they claim it is waterproof...IP68 rating.....and a lifetime warranty. Funny thing is you cannot replace the battery, or turn it off, so if it quits working (dead battery) are they gonna send me a new one? Lol
  6. tg3690

    I did another thing, ha ha ha I can’t wait 😁

    The "Big Boy".....gotta have one of these when roamin the range in Texas....lol.
  7. tg3690

    Need to adjust the dial 1990 Force carbs mixture

    I just got one of these to verify my main tach was accurate.....so far it seems to work well.....the brand was Carbole (ebay) but looks exactly the same as the one in that link......
  8. tg3690

    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    Btw.....if you believe these old 2-stroke motors have valves that don't open then you really do need the best manual you can get......(y)
  9. tg3690

    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    The original 20+ year old factory manuals were made by the folks who made the engine and are the best there is.....(No sarcasm).
  10. tg3690

    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    Look on ebay for a factory manual.....
  11. tg3690

    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    Post a pic of the engine ID tag.....should be on there somewhere......and pics of the motor.
  12. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Sounds like some air is still in there maybe.....keep an eye on the motor, if it gets hot let it cool for a while.....will also help with getting the bubbles out of the fluid. Make sure the engine goes all the way up till is stops, then all the way down until it stops.....full travel......
  13. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Just to be clear, you don't have to let the air out.....it will do it automatically as you raise the engine up and down with the cap OFF. The expelled air will appear as bubbles in the fluid in the reservoir. If there are a lot of bubbles in the oil they will get pumped back into the system...
  14. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Not much to it really.....basically, start with engine all the way down....remove cap, top off fluid. With cap off, run engine up/down a few times.....top off, then up/down a few more times. Only add fluid to reservoir when engine is all the way down......put cap back on, done. Is possible...
  15. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Need to get all the air out. It is a self bleeding system....manual says to use SAE 30 Non Detergent oil. What procedure are you using to bleed it? You should not use anything on these nuts or threads......the seal is made by the metal to metal contact of the flared line to the valve body...
  16. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Was thinking the same thing.... Only the finest materials and parts go into my vessel! :ROFLMAO:
  17. tg3690

    The fall

    Sorry to hear about your fall, jerry.....glad nothing got broken. My mom (90 yrs) fell a couple weeks ago....luckily she didn't break anything either, just banged up a bit. Hope you recover fully and can get back to doing the things you like to do! (y)
  18. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Well I think Nordin answered your concern about the water issue.....I was wondering about it myself. Learn something new every day about these motors. The water may be coming in around that leg seal....only ones I could find were some used ones on ebay. Everywhere else was NLA. Your best bet...
  19. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Thanks Nordin......appreciate you answering these questions......(y)
  20. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Also there are 2 small plastic plugs, #8 in that diagram, at the bottom down there.....if those were missing I am thinking water could come up through those holes?
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