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  1. tg3690

    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    The original 20+ year old factory manuals were made by the folks who made the engine and are the best there is.....(No sarcasm).
  2. tg3690

    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    Look on ebay for a factory manual.....
  3. tg3690

    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    Post a pic of the engine ID tag.....should be on there somewhere......and pics of the motor.
  4. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Sounds like some air is still in there maybe.....keep an eye on the motor, if it gets hot let it cool for a while.....will also help with getting the bubbles out of the fluid. Make sure the engine goes all the way up till is stops, then all the way down until it stops.....full travel......
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    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Just to be clear, you don't have to let the air out.....it will do it automatically as you raise the engine up and down with the cap OFF. The expelled air will appear as bubbles in the fluid in the reservoir. If there are a lot of bubbles in the oil they will get pumped back into the system...
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    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Not much to it really.....basically, start with engine all the way down....remove cap, top off fluid. With cap off, run engine up/down a few times.....top off, then up/down a few more times. Only add fluid to reservoir when engine is all the way down......put cap back on, done. Is possible...
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    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Need to get all the air out. It is a self bleeding system....manual says to use SAE 30 Non Detergent oil. What procedure are you using to bleed it? You should not use anything on these nuts or threads......the seal is made by the metal to metal contact of the flared line to the valve body...
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    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Was thinking the same thing.... Only the finest materials and parts go into my vessel! :ROFLMAO:
  9. tg3690

    The fall

    Sorry to hear about your fall, jerry.....glad nothing got broken. My mom (90 yrs) fell a couple weeks ago....luckily she didn't break anything either, just banged up a bit. Hope you recover fully and can get back to doing the things you like to do! (y)
  10. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Well I think Nordin answered your concern about the water issue.....I was wondering about it myself. Learn something new every day about these motors. The water may be coming in around that leg seal....only ones I could find were some used ones on ebay. Everywhere else was NLA. Your best bet...
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    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Thanks Nordin......appreciate you answering these questions......(y)
  12. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Also there are 2 small plastic plugs, #8 in that diagram, at the bottom down there.....if those were missing I am thinking water could come up through those holes?
  13. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    I posted a parts diagram for his engine in post#20.....is part#13 what you are talking about?
  14. tg3690

    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Hey Nordin.....the OP says when he lowers his motor down all the way in the water he gets water inside the engine compartment, way down low at the bottom......maybe 2-3 inches of water. Mine does not do that....seems to always be dry down there. Is that normal for his 125 Force and will it...
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    1984 force 125 Leaking tilt and trim?

    Hopefully a new boot will solve your exhaust leak issue. Where is your T&T leaking at? Those fittings have to be pretty snug to keep from leaking. As for the water issue, I have summoned the gurus for input.....lol. @Nordin @The Force power @jerryjerry05 @Jiggz
  16. tg3690

    Force outboard maintenance

    Am not a scientist or a chemist.....but if it smells like regular gas and only 2 months old (non ethanol) then it is probably ok to dilute.....bad gas has a varnish smell to it....
  17. tg3690

    Random

    One of the grossest things ever was the earpiece on a pay phone.....using 2 fingers and holding it away from your ear and trying to talk...lol
  18. tg3690

    Force outboard maintenance

    How many gallons and how old is it? If in doubt you could use a little bit of it at a time when refueling, to get rid of it. But if you know it is stale I wouldn't use it at all....
  19. tg3690

    Force outboard maintenance

    Have heard the same, is probably true......these motors are the old crossflow design and have pistons with big ridges on them. That makes them more susceptible to detonation to begin with, and bad/stale fuel can make it even worse. But if you stay on top of your fuel quality you should be ok...
  20. tg3690

    Force outboard maintenance

    I use 89 octane but either will be fine. Ethanol free (E0) is great if you can find it, is more expensive. E10 is readily available and if you use a good fuel stabilizer will be fine. I use Sta-Bil 360 Marine with every fill up....that way it is always treated in case it sits for a...
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