1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Drat!!!! I got rained out today; so no boat building for Dave. Oh well, I guess it?s back to building deck planks in the garage today (my wife will just LOVE me parking the new car out in the rain so I can cut and sand planks in the garage)Ha, Ha. Serves her right anyway! I will try to get over there in the next few days to photograph that thing sticking out of the bottom of the hull.

 

[badkins50]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

hey Monterey Dreams, I was casually looking through craigslist when I came across this and it made me think about your boat. I don't know if it is the same make as yours or not but it looks like a deep v hull style version of it.

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/boa/2596067792.html

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hey Badkins50, Wow, that really does look like a deep v version. Thanks for thinking about me. I am becoming addicted to the ?old? look that this era boats has. It is very unique.
Hmmmm, let?s see?.California to Ohio, that is not toooo long a drive to pick up project boat?..hmmm
You know my wife would probably divorce me.
Thanks I am going to keep the image you provided. It give me a little more of a template to model my boat from.
Thanks again.

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hello Everyone;
I got to work on ?Dreams? for a little today; I finished cutting, sanding, staining and installing the deck planks today. I ran out of daylight, so here is how we stand so far, Decking is totally installed with 3 coats Minwax Sedona Red 202 Stain/Sealant applied, next I am going to put some sort of putty or epoxy (don?t know of one yet, must talk to the guy in our local country hardware store; I try to stay out of HD/Lowes) in between the gaps of the deck to help repel water. Then I am going to coat with at least another coat of Minwax and then three (probably more) coats of Helmsman?s Spar Urethane. I am waiting for my personal photographer (Dad) to forward me a few photos of the boat, when he does I will of course upload a few here for you my friends,
Goodnight all, and God Bless;
Dave

 

[Monterey Dreams]

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[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Well I went to the little hardware store today and my knowledgeable source suggested that I use Elmer?s Carpenter Wood Filler in between the seams of the deck. He said that it dries hard as a rock and is impenetrable when dried. He also said I can stain it along with the deck and finally the spar urethane can be put on it as well. It comes in a tub of putty and installs with a putty knife or spreader. So unless somebody here tells me differently I am going to try what he said to do.
Good night my friends.

 

[Cadwelder]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Are you planning on using a floor sander or somthing to smooth out the tops of the planks? Maybe should have waited on the stain after the sanding??? Just some thought here.

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Cadwelder, Yes I am planning on sanding the boards. I wanted to get a coat of ?sealant? onto the wood so it would not warp, crack, and split in the hot California sun, I read that the Minwax is a Sealant + Protectant +Stain, so I thought to at least have some small protection on it before the weather does damage to the boards. I began filling some of the gaps between the boards tonight and when it dries (and I complete the rest of the gaps between the planks) I shall sand using a regular black and decker sander with a fine grit (do you know a specific number paper to use)? I thought 400 to start and 200 to smooth out.
Thank you for your advice, and your interest in my project. After I sand and stain I plan to use a few coats of Spar Urethane to finish the job.

 

[sqbtr]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

I think I would start with about a 50 grit and work my way up to 150 or 200. I must have missed it, what kind of wood did you use?

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Thanks Sqbtr, I will use the 50 and work up. Wood was just scrap pine (dried) basically I disassembled pallets (readily available I am a truck driver), and took the good wood from them. I liked the fact that the planks were basically the size that I wanted to use without much cutting, and of course it was a whole lot cheaper.

 

[Cadwelder]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

You're going to be there a loooooonnnng time with that set up. Do you have access to a belt sander? Or even a floor sander would be good. You have a good bit of bulk to remove on some of the boards.

Also a coat of epoxy would be a good choice and then a good marine varnish on top of that for UV protection. I'm am a bit concerned about the floor being really slick when wet though.

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hi Cadwelder,
Sorry I did not answer right away, work has been a little hectic, I just got off now at almost 1230 Am (this is way past my bedtime). As to your question no I do not have a belt sander or floor sander, I will go down this weekend to harbor freight (about the only tool store in my city) and look into costs for them and such. Do you think I should do the marine varnish instead of the urethane I had planned on or in addition to? How do you install marine varnish? (Where to purchase; Iboats, West Marine?) With brush or spray? Sorry about my ignorance in this, but I am learning as we go on this.
Thank you for your time, and interest in my boat/thread.
Indeed; thank you all (here on iboats) for your advice and help. I am very grateful.
Goodnight

 

[Monterey Dreams]

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??coat of epoxy?. What kind of epoxy are you speaking about? Can you tell me a brand/ trade name? Where can I find, etc. Also how do I install?
Thankx again.
Dave

 

[ezmobee]

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I bought a cheap belt sander at HF when I refinished the deck on my house. Worked well.

The epoxy he is referring to is epoxy resin. You likely won't find it locally and will have to order it from places like U.S. Composites or Clark Craft (Google 'em). Epoxy is not UV protected to that's why you would want to top coat it with marine varnish. I THINK you can source marine spar varnish at the home centers. You could maybe add some sand to the epoxy coat for some added traction.

 

[Monterey Dreams]

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Thanks for the clarification ezmobee, I will go to HF Saturday. Epoxy Resin? is that the same resin that is used in fiber glassing? (I want to makes sure I get the proper ?stuff?. Is epoxy clear? I would like to see the wood grians.
Thanks also for telling me about where to find the marine spar varnish. That would replace the spar urethane I was originally told to use?
Sorry for probably asking silly questions. This is really the first time I have done anything like this.
Thanks again,
Dave

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 ????? Anybody Remember this boat? (1959 Glasscat Project underway)

Re: 1959 ????? Anybody Remember this boat? (1959 Glasscat Project underway)

Hi everybody,

I just jumped over to the US Composites website. Are you talking about the Epoxy Kleer Kote? The table top/ and bar top epoxy?
There really is a lot to choose from on that site (and I don?t know a darned thing about any of it)!!!!
And looking at the product description, I guess it translucent ?so I can see my wood grains.?
Thanks again

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Fiberglassing is typically done with polyester or epoxy resin. Poly is probably more common and it's what most fiberglass boats were built with originally. Poly resin has little strength by itself and must be used with some kind of 'glass. Epoxy can be used by itself and is fairly clear. My deck boards looked like bar tops after two coats of epoxy. http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/New Boat/DSCF2370.jpg I don't know much more about the varnish as I haven't personally used it. Just Googling "marine spar varnish" brought up numerous results from some pretty big name brands so that stuff shouldn't be tough to find. I did see that some says not to be used on floors so you'll have to find one that can be.

 

[coastalcruiser]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

hey monterey
as a woodworker i hope it's ok if i may suggest a few tips
first with pallets try and put the boards through a thickness planer this save a ton of work. and when puting the planks down stagger the joints in sequence, that looks much better for example 2 (Foot)' is better than 4'' (inches)
with boats weight is very important and slows you down so if you can use some vynal deck material over ply i would think that is lighter?
take care
rob

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hi all, Thanks for the tips as usual ezmobee, I am going to be ordering from Us Composites very soon the epoxy. (Your boards look AWSOME). Thank you costalcruiser (Rob) also for your tips, I do really appreciate you taking the time to write on my thread. As to the planer I do not have any opportunity to use such a tool. Unless I took my little pallet boards to a carpentry shop to have them plane them down for me. That probably would be cost prohibitive since I used old pallet wood to save a few dollars and it?s what I had available in the first place. Also as to weight, I am not interested so much in going fast on the water, I just want to be able to put out on an overnight fishing trip or bounce around the bay with my wife. (As long as it does not sink; I think I should be ok). With the dory configuration I have, I believe she sits fairly high in the water. So if she squats down a little more (and if it is still safe) that is ok with me.
(Once the deck is complete I was thinking about taking her to our little local lake and launching her to check how she floats. Not boating really; just floating a few yards from shore for a few hours. This is just thinking out loud. Big motor not working yet, do you think a 7.5 kicker would push this hulk from the ramp a few hundred yards out of the way?)
For my decks, I went this morning and sanded them for most of the day. Afterwards I stained them again with the Minwax. I also filled most of the larger gaps between planks with the putty that was suggested to me. I am very happy with my floor so far. For my skill level I could not have asked for a better turn out so far. I am not restoring this boat to show like condition; I merely want something that I can take out to the lake/bay and safely take my family out to putt about. And look fairly decent. Finally I kind of like the ?rough plank look? it looks to me a little like an old weathered pier/dock. Here are a few photos after today?s labor.
Please keep your suggestions coming, and thank you all for your help.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

It doesn't take much HP to push a hull at displacement speeds. I think you'll find the 7.5 pushes it just fine.