1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

[Jon Sob]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

I didn't pack it in very tight but I tried to fill all of the voids. I did not glue it together.

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Made my first paint test by combining Pettit EasyPoxy "Sandtone" and some Grumbacher Oil Paint "Cobalt Turquoise" ($11. at **** Blick Art Supply) as a tint. I thinned the tint with acetone then mixed into paint. It did not combine as easily as I expected. I don't have any Pettit 121 spraying thinner on hand to test. That might have worked better.

See the tint here: http://www.dickblick.com/items/00448-5373/

The actual color that came out was pretty nice. A little stronger would be even better. This is easily adjusted by adding more tint.

Now I have to wait and see if the paint dries properly with the tint added. Fingers crossed! If not I may have to switch to a pure "oil base" paint to insure compatibility. I had a brand new quart of EasyPoxy so I thought I might as well try it. Nothing to loose ...

UPDATE: The EasyPoxy, after 18 hours indoors is really not drying well. Not sure what to think. Where it was very thin it's dry to touch but not sandable. Where it's thicker ... it's gummy. Maybe it was the acetone? Maybe the oiliness of the tint in such a a small batch? The plain, out of the can, EasyPoxy I used as a "control" dried normally.

The Rustoleum Satin, oil base (my hull paint) I tested at the same time with the same tint did dry normally.

Guess I have to use oil base with the "Valspar Enamel Hardener" product to get what I want.

I think I will pick up a can of Valspar / Tractor paint and try it.

I have used EasyPoxy many times, brushing it on. It always flowed out well, had good holdout and made a nice hard, glossy finish. Used straight from the can it's a great product.

 

[*EdC*]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Hi Steve,
I like what you got going there. I've used Easypoxy too, and I am very happy with the results. Here is a pic of their Bright work brown. Brushed on.

Looking forward to seeing your paint job.

Lastly, you may find, that shade might be a bit darker when dried. good lick !

 

[sphelps]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

A little darker would still look good !

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

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Thanks for all the encouragement! PLEASE see my update to my previous post. My EasyPoxy test was not successful in my view. It did not dry well. I'm no chemist so I really don't know why, but I caution you all to do your own testing if you want to tint EasyPoxy on your own.

I may retest using a different thinner. EasyPoxy out of the can has beautiful flow out qualities. I'd like to use it.

 

[*EdC*]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Steve,

Artist's oils take forever to dry! And I can see you needed alot to get that shade. I have also found Easypoxy to take up to 36 hours to dry without any additives. Especially in cooler temps. You could put some Japan Drier in it to see if that helps.

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Hey Ed ! Thanks for your insight. I thought about adding drier but hesitated. Just one more chemical to deal with! I have used drier with "out of the can" EasyPoxy and it was fine.

Since the Rusto dried properly I think I'll just go oil base. I can't bring myself to do this twice!! I'm headed to Tractor Supply tomorrow. I'll use the Valspar Gloss, their hardener product and tint that.

Taped up my under deck lip and painted it. I did not plan to re-do it but did want to cover up the discolorations from the mildew. Caught the sun highlighting the laps nicely and thought they looked pretty good despite being just primer.

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Got the Valspar Paint from TSC and used my tint. Even with the WHOLE TUBE of tint in a quart of white gloss all I got was a baby blue color!

To light. So ... I went to my nearby Sherwin Williams paint store that has the ability to tint oil paint. Working with the specialist, I was able to get pretty close to the '57 Chevy color I originally wanted.

Should look great! Sure hope a quart is enough to spray my little Oxford deck cause I'll never match it!

Reading the paint can label it specifically says to thin with naphtha. I haven't seen anyone mention using naphtha as a thinner. I have never used naphtha for anything ... I didn't even know it could be used as a paint thinner.

Here are two descriptions of VM&P naphtha as it applies to painting...

VM&P Naphtha stands for “Varnish Makers and Painter,” and is a petroleum solvent similar in strength to mineral spirits (paint thinner), but it is more volatile and has a faster drying time. It has a pleasant sweet smell and is ideal for most solvent-based finishes, making it popular for lengthy projects.

It behaves much like lighter fluid and is a good solvent for cleaning residues left by tape or labels.

The low flash point of VM&P Naphtha means that it is highly flammable and must be handled carefully.

This fast drying solvent replaces paint thinners to accelerate drying time of oil-based paints, enamel and varnish. It is also excellent as a thinner for oil-based coatings, and for cleaning brushes and spray equipment. Often used as a lubricant for rubbing out hardened shellac finishes, and will improve an older shellac coating with a simple rub-down. Do not use to thin lacquers, shellac or latex paints.

Any comments?

 

[sphelps]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Not sure about the naptha. I got some of the same valspar tractor paint 1 qt ford blue and 1 qt john deere green as woodonglass suggested to make the aqua blue/green color. I have not mixed any yet because I've been thinking on making my own seats so I will tint the paint to match the vinyl.

 

[keelbolts]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

I was reading thru the thread again & came across the brief discussion concerning the thru-bolted "transom stringer tabs." I thot I'd share a technique used when running a fastener into or thru a cored deck such as one you'd find on a sailboat. After drilling the hole for the fastener, you take a piece of bent wire or an allen wrench, chuck it in your drill motor, stick it in the hole (between the FG skins, and spin it to clear out the balsa core around the hole. You then pack the hole with epoxy & re-drill your hole for the fastener. That way, when the bedding compound under the hardware you're screwing down fails (as it must eventually) the water that works it's way down the fastener is prevented by coming into contact with the core? Check the West System site for a better description of the process. I know I'm going the use a variation of the overdrill & fill technique with any fasteners I screw into or thru my transom once I've renewed it.

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

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Yes Keelbolts, I have use the same process to seal my 3 drains. The two for the splash tray and the hull drain. I used a thickened epoxy mixture in the holes .. left it soak in a bit, then pre-coated a piece of plastic pipe and then inserted it. I left about 1/8" of pipe sticking out on each side to grind off. Worked great.

I think I used a 7/8" fly cutter bit to drill and domestic cold water plastic pipe. The fit was close.

I was able to find a locking plug to fit the water pipe at Ace Hardware. (hull drain)

For those tabs I think I will use #12 s/s screws about 1 3/4" long. Long enough to hold but not go all the way through the transom. Plenty of 3M 4200 should keep things dry.

If the screws don't hold I'll do the bolts and line the holes with epoxy as suggested.

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Came across this old photo and couldn't resist posting it.

For everyone that gets all weepy-eyed over wood decks!

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

sphelps I hope you got some white paint too! Just the blue and the green together will be a dark color ... I think. From my experiment with color (trying to get a turquoise) I would try about 10 parts white to 3 parts blue and maybe 1 1/2 parts green.

I found it took a lot of color to colorize my quart of white. I did a small batch to get a feel for what I needed.

 

[sphelps]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

The same white paint thats on the hull got a gallon.I love the disco pit on the gypsy star!

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Today wasn't my day ....

It warmed to 67 degrees today but that breeze just wouldn't give me a break. Winds 5 to 10 with gusts to 15 all day. Not outdoor spray painting weather.

Here she is all masked and prepped, ready for the spray gun.

Rain is in the forecast so the tarp is securely tied. Hopefully my masking won't get wet!

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

I just couldn't take this wind anymore! Seems it never stops!

Out of desperation springs creativity and today I finally had to do something to move this project along. So I got up early, took stock of my available "junk" (as my wife calls it) and headed to Harbor Freight to see what I might cobble together to dolly my boat out of the yard and into the garage.

Well, I found some 5" castor type wheels rated at 330lbs for only 7 bucks each. Went to HD and got 16 - 5/16" x 1 1/2" lag screws and proceeded to attach the casters to 2 - 2 x 6s. Put one set on the rear and one set up front securing them up over the hull with ratchet straps.

Hooked the lawn tractor up and away we went up to the driveway. Yeahhhhhhh ! From there it was easy to push it into the garage. Good thing it has been so dry here, my yard was very hard. On soft ground those wheels would have sunk in ...

Now I can begin set up for the painting!

Anyone contemplating painting outdoors, do your utmost to avoid it. It can be very frustrating.

 

[*EdC*]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Way to go steve!!!

 

[sphelps]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Now your cookin ! Block it up unstrap it and have at it!

 

[Jon Sob]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Great idea Steve ...... good luck with the painting. Can't wait to see her all nice and shinny.

 

[SteveMFG_Oxford]

Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Today I managed to apply a light coat of white to the hull!

Mixed up a pint of Rusto White Satin, 2 oz of Acetone, 1 oz of Valspar hardener. I waited 30 minutes after mixing to begin painting.

Starting, it was a little tricky getting the feel of the new spray gun controls. At first I was spraying way too light. As I worked around I began to understand all the gun controls a little better and the spray quality improved.

My goal today was only to make the hull a nice even white color with just a light, base coat. It's a good thing because that pint of paint barely made it all the way around! Next coat I'll mix up a full quart and apply it a bit heavier.

It's just 60 degrees in my garage so I plan to let this dry a few days then rub it with the Scotchbrite pads. I don't really want to sand again! So far I saw only one little sag. If all goes well Friday is supposed to be a nice day here. Hopefully the final coat can be put on then.

(EDIT: This base coat formula dried to touch in about 3 hours at 60F at 20% humidity. After 36 hrs. the paint seems fully cured. Temps went as low as 52 degrees in my garage.)

Sure is great to have it on wheels! Looking forward to pushing it out in the sun to cure!

Sorry to disappoint you Jon but it won't be very shiny! I'm thinking that "satin" paint is somewhere between "flat" and "semi-gloss". I didn't want a lot of gloss on the hull. My hull is not exactly perfect. Neither are my painting skills and matte finishes don't show the (my) flaws as much!!

Now the deck is a different story! THAT I would like to shine!