1967 sportsman 120?

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Looking at a boat in a guys yard that's been sitting for like 20 years. I've been looking online but I can't find a ton of information, other than the trailers are built heavy enough for the Titanic. Not sure if motor runs. Just wondering if it's worth picking up or if it should just be laid to rest. Can buy for about 100$. Thanks
 

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I think the Sportsman was OMC's entry into the popular tri-hull of the day. Engines were the 90 2 stroke like was used in their top of the line outboard and then the other engine I recall was the little Buick V6 putting out 155. Don't remember, but makes sense that the 120 was a little Chevy block L4. The boats used the OMC outdrive which boasted higher gear drive tilting, getting the LU out of the water for longtime marine parking over the Mercruiser hydraulic tilt of the day which OMC adopted later on when trim was added. Also the OMC outdrive had a large rubber boot between the outdrive and transom with the outdrive mounted to the engine and supported by the hull stringers whereas the Mercruiser was bolted to the transom and the drive and exhaust went through separate reinforced rubber bellows (tubes).

I know nothing about the boat's construction. However techniques in those days were wood that man or may not have been encased in fiberglass and the quality of the encapsulation was manufacturer dependent. Other thing is that over time with wave and trailer pounding, one has to question the ability of the encapsulation to remain intact....in short, you could have structural wood decay.

Have no idea as to parts availability. $100 isn't much but it could well be a sucker price. When doing restorations, costs just never end.....go to the restoration section herein and look at what's required to make a junker a star. I did a 1965 Starcraft 18' I/O with a 110 Mercruiser Chevy 4 and other than the deck and transom, which both had to be replaced, the rest was alum. which doesn't rot.....reason for selecting Starcraft. BTDT
 

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Wow thanks so much for the info. The boat has sat on the trailer for like over 20 years. Could that cause the boat to still rot? I stood in the boat an the floor seems very solid. Ive owned boats before so I am pretty sure it's ok. The thing that concerns me is the large bellow. I know it needs replacement. I'll also check that other section. Once again thanks
 

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If it was stored indoors, out of the rain (especially) it really helps. If it collected leaves and rain and sat on the trailer with all that in it, you could have water damage internally and the hull could have a hook where the trailer supports are located.

Replacing the rubber diaphragm around the outdrive is a great idea and will give you a chance to lube up everything. Ensure that you change oil in the engine, the outdrive gears and all including the lower unit where the prop drive is located. A service-maintenance manual would really help. If you can't get one on the boat, at least get one on the engine and outdrive. iboats sells Seloc and I have used them from here....the electronic version. I like them. Others not necesarily. If that's all you can find it's surely better than nothing.
 

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The boat has sat outside its whole life. It did have a tarp on it for a while but eventually it gave way. The boat sits well on the trailer and doesn't appear to "sag" where the rollers are located. Like other boats I've owned. I will for sure change all the fluids. So u know if the diaphragm is available?
 

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You can still buy the boot for the outdrive. But there are several parts that are NLA for the Electric Shift Stringer (stern drive on that boat). I like the old Evinrude/OMC boats, and I don't really mind the OMC Stringers, but expect the boat to be a project boat. The Stringer can be finicky, but if you care for it there's no reason it can't run for a long time.
 

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Mr. Taylor,

I was not aware that the OMC outdrive used in their boats and others in that time period was referred to as an "OMC Stringer" to which Mr. Southkogs referred. My reference to stringers was with regard to the structural parts of the boat, usually 2 wooden beams that run most of the length of the bottom of some/most boats.....know not what's used in the OMC but something has to support the engine and outdrive (OMC Stringer).

Just wanted a point of clarification to keep you on track and not get confused by the terminology.
 

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Mr. Taylor,

I was not aware that the OMC outdrive used in their boats and others in that time period was referred to as an "OMC Stringer" to which Mr. Southkogs referred. My reference to stringers was with regard to the structural parts of the boat, usually 2 wooden beams that run most of the length of the bottom of some/most boats.....know not what's used in the OMC but something has to support the engine and outdrive (OMC Stringer).

Just wanted a point of clarification to keep you on track and not get confused by the terminology.

Great now I'm really confused Hahaha.
 

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Thanks Kogs. Mr. Taylor, don't be confused. WWW has the skinny on the subject, just google OMC Stringer and sort through the entries. I found one with an indepth commentary. In short since the OMC outdrive (in addition to the engine which all mfgrs. attach to the stringers) attaches to the stringers....the support beams running fore and aft of the boat, under the deck (floor), OMC just decided to name their outdrive of that era Stringer. Mr Kogs was referring to the outdrive when he used the word "Stringer" and I was talking about the boat beams when I used the word "stringer". Ok?
 

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Thanks Kogs. Mr. Taylor, don't be confused. WWW has the skinny on the subject, just google OMC Stringer and sort through the entries. I found one with an indepth commentary. In short since the OMC outdrive (in addition to the engine which all mfgrs. attach to the stringers) attaches to the stringers....the support beams running fore and aft of the boat, under the deck (floor), OMC just decided to name their outdrive of that era Stringer. Mr Kogs was referring to the outdrive when he used the word "Stringer" and I was talking about the boat beams when I used the word "stringer". Ok?

Ok. I got you now. I thought I had a idea what you guys were talking about now I know. Thanks for clearing it up and not being a jerk about it. Do you know if there's a place that sells the diaphragm?
 

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Boat stringers ... "bones of the boat" in a sense ...
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OMC Stringer - "finicky old stern drive" ...

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Why not start with iboats under Boat parts and accessories. Then if necessary, go online. I suppose you would ask for an OMC Stringer transom boot.....what do you think Kogs?

Mr. Kogs, while I'm at it, how did that gear driven tilt (apparently that's the purpose of the visible gear in your picture) survive a whack with an underwater object at 35 or so mph?
 
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Why not start with iboats under Boat parts and accessories. ...what do you think Kogs?
iBoats doesn't have the boot he needs. ctaylor, I sent you a PM.

Mr. Kogs, while I'm at it, how did that gear driven tilt (apparently that's the purpose of the visible gear in your picture) survive a whack with an underwater object at 35 or so mph?
Correct, that is the tilt. Probably one of the most notorious pieces on the drive :D And honestly, it's finicky but pretty stout. The clutch pack (canister lookin' thing just below the gear) should release the drive "up" to absorb impact and ease the hit. I met the bottom here in TN (mostly rock) one time with my Stringer, but I wasn't going fast enough to test the 35mph part out. But that's supposed to be how it works.
 

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I was just wondering, being "mass" and needing more time to move than a poppet pressure valve like in the Mercruiser. Enjoyed the chat.
 

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I was just wondering, being "mass" and needing more time to move than a poppet pressure valve like in the Mercruiser.
I feel like my Stringer was quite a bit heavier than my Merc is (haven't checked at all), so the general debris I'd run into on the lakes around here - significant after a lot of weather - was pretty easy for it to "rhino" it's way on through. Hittin' something more like a deadhead or a rock at speed I've just never experienced - or looked up. The nice part about it is that the drive isn't attached to the transom, so your risk of losing the whole stern is reduced a little. I say a little 'cuz the chance of ripping that rubber boot is bad enough :)

Enjoyed the chat.
Ditto. I've always enjoyed your posts in the forums.
 

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This is why I love this site we went from fixing a problem to sharing info to bullshiting like we're all best friends. Thanks for the help guys.
 
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