1972 hydro-electric gearcase stuck in foward

jdlanders

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Hello, I am new to the web site and new to owning an engine over 2hp! I just bought a 1972 johnson 50hp. It has the electric shift circuit. I took the boat out just to see how it ran last weekend, the engine felt great untill it no longer would shift from foward. The lever on the gearcase will not shift. I am thinking that it it is the Blocking diode. I have a clymer shop manual but the instructions to test were not that clear. Is the blocking diode the cylinder below the ignition terminal in the actual control box? and if so, and if the blocking diode is faulty would it cause my problem? and finally, how can I check the solenoids if I can not get the boat out of foward gear. Thank you for the help, I am sure I will be around a lot untill this thing is running like 1972.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 1972 hydro-electric gearcase stuck in foward

a 1972 hydroelectric shift does not have a shift lever. the shift is done electrically.

Hydro Electric Shift)
(J. Reeves)

The shifting setup of the lower unit is what's called a "Hydro Electric Shift", which is quite complex consisting of voltage being applied to solenoids in the lower unit which in turn change oil passages via a oil pump that supplies various pressure on a spring loaded shifter dog. The wires leading to the lower unit (at the powerhead) are "Green" and "Blue". The engine must be running or cranking over in order to shift out of forward gear.

You CAN NOT use HI VIS lube in that lower unit. You MUST USE what OMC calls "Premium Blend" lube, commonly called "Type C". (A thinner lube)

In neutral, you need 12v to the "Green" wire.
In reverse, you need 12v to both wires, the "Green" one and the "Blue" one.
In forward, there should be no voltage to either wire. (The spring loaded shifter dog forces the unit into forward gear)

To check the lower unit for proper shifting to make sure you have no trouble there, remove the spark plugs to avoid problems and to allow a higher cranking speed.

This next step eliminates the actual shift switch in case problems may exist there.... Disconnect the blue & green wires at the knife connectors (the rubber insulated boots) leading to the lower unit at the powerhead, then using jumpers, take voltage direct from the starter solenoid to apply voltage to the "Green" wire for neutral, then both wires 'Green" & "Blue" for reverse (Remember the engine must be cranking over in order to shift).
With no voltage applied, the unit should be in forward. No need for a ground jumper... the lower unit's already grounded. You may crank the engine with the key switch or by energizing the starter solenoid with a jumper wire.
 

jdlanders

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Re: 1972 hydro-electric gearcase stuck in foward

I will defenately try this suggestetion , which i have found on the web site before. What do I call the lever that I push down to put my engine into gear (foward)? It is on the same 'control shift box' that i use to turn the key in the ignition and to control the throtle. I can not move this lever to the nuetral position and because of this I can not start the engine (the 'lever' on the 'shift box' will not move back to the nuetral position, it stays tilted forward.) immediatly before this the engine was going in foward and reverse while I had it on the lake. it is because this 'lever' will not go back to nuetral that i thought i might have a problem with the blocking diode.
 

tomynoks

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Re: 1972 hydro-electric gearcase stuck in foward

Your control case should have 3 screws holding it together. There is a switch that supplies power for reverse and neutral inside. I'm guessing it may be jammed to far forward. You may just need to lube the control mechanism and throttle cam. I can send you a diagram, email me at
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F_R

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Re: 1972 hydro-electric gearcase stuck in foward

The main throttle lever on the control box is mechanically jammed if that is what you are speaking of. Yes, it could be related to the shift switch which is triggered by the main lever.

The blocking diode has absolutely nothing to do with it. Yes, in combination with other problems it can cause a no shift condition if it is "open", but your control lever / shift switch is far more likely in your case.
 
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