1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

powder coat is beautiful stuff!

I'm debating if I want to take apart the gimbal housing assembly and powder coating the housing, gimbal ring and bell housing. I probably should do it if I can get all three of those pieces cleaned up and powder coated for around $150.00. I got the whole transom assembly and transom plate for $275.00 shipped to my door so for $500.00 for the non salt water exposed parts with a fresh powder coating on everything seems good to me. I probably should say $600.00 for a total to include all the new parts needed for reassembly and that should give me an almost mint assembly for $600.00.

Sad thing is, as much money one sinks into these older boats, one has to wonder if we need a mental check up. I could NEVER, EVER sell this thing and get back 1/4 of the money, blood, sweat and tears.

Bill

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Squid Billy,

Sad thing is, as much money one sinks into these older boats, one has to wonder if we need a mental check up. I could NEVER, EVER sell this thing and get back 1/4 of the money, blood, sweat and tears.

The answer to that questions is rather obvious, ("YES").

Hey, I hope you have a safe and Merry Christmas.
Bob

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

I made a little progress yesterday in removing the cockpit area of the boat. Wind shield, dash, glove box, steering wheel, and the throttle.

This boat is fighting me the whole freaking way. Nothing has been simple, and every time it looks like something might go my way, ... the boat throws in a monkey wrench at every turn. Agrrrr

It got to the point, my girlfriend and I would try to guess what could possibly go wrong in every step I would take, the boat did not disappoint us in that either. I would try to avoid the problem, and we were amazed at how it would cause another.

Davey Jones is haunting us!

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Under the dash was an electricians nightmare .... most of the nuts holding on the wires were frozen which led to tag and cut. I'm glad I have time on the gauges. I am going to need to but some BK on the nuts to try to loosen the rush and corrosion in order to reuse them. I am hoping to keep the dash panel and gauges.

Ok, ... I'm sorry, but the people at Silverline knew nothing about building boats. If there was a screw that could be seen from sitting in the boat, it was stainless steel. If it couldn't be seen from sitting in a seat, it was steel and so severely rusted they needed to be broken off.

The biggest one that puzzles me, I found a fuse panel on the boat ... BEHIND THE FREAKING DASH!!!!!! It was completely inaccessible without removing the dash and you have to remove wires in order to get the dash off!!!! WTF!

Needless to say, ... This will be the one and only Silverline

 

[fishrdan]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Fuse panel behind the dash, with no access,,, that's a good one

I put this fuse panels in my project and it looks like a real nice panel, solid connections and lots of room for additional circuits.

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Dan,

That looks like a real nice one, where did you get it if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Well around Christmas I got the cap off and started grinding.

 

[fishrdan]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Hey Bill,

I got the fuse panel off Ebay, but Iboats has them in the store too.

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

After test all the fitting of the transom, I pulled them out and started to grind any remnants of wood and all the dry layup they did at the factory.

Jeeezzz it was bad. I will post pictures of some of the worst areas at a later time.

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Hey Bill,

I got the fuse panel off Ebay, but Iboats has them in the store too.

Thanks Dan, ... I will keep that in mind when the time comes.

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

A little test fitting of the transom pieces. It consist of (2pcs.) 7-ply, (.719 in.) 3/4" Arauco Ply Sanded ACX.

I have never used this material before, ... And I really like the stuff so far, ....

I picked up 3 yards of 2.0 oz. CSM today to put one layer between each piece. I also have some glass damage on the transom fiberglass. It appears that the transom, floor and stringers were in such bad shape, the glass was sort of buckling around the gimbal housing area. Also the mounting holes are some cracks between the hole and the drive opening that are clear through the glass.

Let me ask a quick question, ... What do you think of using 7500 glass on 45* angles to each other instead of 1708? I got tons of it laying around that I could use if it's O.K.

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Well it seems I have found the reason for the rot in my boat. My boat deck was almost 2" lower at the bow than at the transom. I checked in relation to the water line.

How I found this out was I wanted to get my stringers "SPOT ON" level so the floor would would drain properly and not pool up in low areas. I bought a rotating laser level so I could achieve this and that's how I found out the deck was off. If it is supposed to be that way, can someone chime in here and let me know before I proceed with shaping the stringers for the bow curve. I have ALL the would roughly cut out and I will be bagging the stringers and transom before they will be added to the hull.

Also, How much glass will I need?

Yesterday, I picked up some fiberglass;

15 yards of 1708
15 yards of 1.5 oz. mat
3 yards of 2.0 oz. mat that will go between the (2) sheets of ply for my transom

Is this enough for, (6) stringers, Transom, floor and engine mounting?

Also, ... How much epoxy resin do you think I will need? I was planing on using US Composites 635 medium. A 5 gallon kit with hardener is a total of 6.6 gallons, Is that going to be enough?

Thanks Guy's

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

I forgot to add the pictures of the level ....

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Squid Billy,
Not 100% sure but you should be close. If you go to US Composites web page they have a calculator to figure the amount of resin for each type of glass.
I had five gallons of poly resin and I will be close on mine with four stringers and several bulk heads. I plan to get another five very soon. I still have the deck and several other items to glass in.
Hope this helps
Bob

 

[Squid Billy]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the response.

My stringers are;

2 @ 10.5 wide and 13' long
2 @ 6.75 wide and 12' long
2 @ 2.875 wide and 13' long

I was planing on bagging the stringers with one layer each on both side of the stringers with 1708 first, then 1.5 oz. mat before they go in the hull ... or should I add the mat first then the 1708?

With that in mind, ... I was planing to tape them in the whole length and about 3" up the stringer and 4-6" up the hull using the same layup order as above while using stretch bagging material for stringers to the hull bond.

The deck will get 1.5 oz. mat on both sides of the plywood.

I'm just trying to determine if I have to little, or to much fiberglass.

This stuff is not cheap here on the west coast as it is on the east coast. The freaking shipping is brutal and I found a place that I can drive to on my way to work.

I paid like $9.50 a yard for the 1708 and $6.00 a yard for the 1.5 oz. mat. Shipping from places like fiberglasssite.com and USComposites.com was over $100.00! So I was OK with the elevated prices considering I didnt need to ship the stuff. Also, ... They have resin, gel-coat and everything else I would need.

Thanks Again ...
Bill

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1972 Silverline Comoro 17T I/O Restoration

Squid Billy,
Your stringers are taller then mine and more of them. I went with 2-3 layers of 18 Rouvin and 1-2 layers of 1.5 oz csm. Those suckers aren't going to go anywhere. My tallest stringer were only 6.5" high, the length was about the same.
Bob